It's also been postulated that Bird may be holding Incredibles 2 over Disney's head in order to secure funding for 1906. Nemo is a great stand alone movie. The very title makes the idea of a sequel silly.
What do I think of Pixar's policy and Disney's desire for more sequels? Disney should be harboring more talent and letting them pursue their own interests. Let Pixar be Pixar! I mean the only successful movie Disney has put out all year was about an old man's trip to South America with an eight year old. No executive in a million years would've come up with that! How about more original ideas (that strike had to hurt) and less remakes and longing for sequels?
Oh, and way to tell us something we haven't already heard Jim. I look forward to hearing about the Space Mountain refurb in the future.
Pixar have run out of ideas.
'UP' is the last thing in their canon, they've come to the end of their renaissance just like Disney did in the 1990s. Once the high profile sequels are out of the way, they can get on with the straight to DVD sequels. And then after that possibly a TV series...
You can't top pigs with pigs.
Leave 'em wanting more.
A concept Hollywood, and now Pixar, just doesn't understand.
I blame all this sequel-ism on Katzenberg! (since Eisner isn't around, JK is the best target for this). DW comes out and announces a sequel even before the original finishes its opening weekend. But, this business model is very successful for them....right now. It's impossible for other studios to ignore this fact.
But, Pixar (and Disney for that matter) need to focus on good films. Witch Mountain might look like a sequel is on its way, but it could have been much more of a movie. Bolt was very good, but a sequel...no.
Pixar has some movies that just don't ever need a sequel. But they have a few that have worlds that can be further explored. UP2 would be NO GOOD. Toy Story - sure, there's a whole toy-based world to explore. As long as they don't make the same movie 3 or 4 times (like DW) for the sequels, it could work. But don't make a sequel to every successful movie.
The irony is that Incredibles is one of the few universes that just BEGS for a sequel. The new comic from Mark Waid is superb and there's a lot of room to grow and be creative with those characters. Not that it would be easy mind you. I mean how do you follow the greatest comic book movie ever?
I think Toy Story 3 and Cars 2 are just as much about cementing Pixar's control and influence within the company as anything else. Greenlighting Ratatouille, Wall-E, and Up just HAD to of taken a little bit out of their sails and maybe a couple of super popular sequels that perform well will make things better again. Although Up seems to be helping with that as well.
Pixar wants Disney to let artists run things and in order to do that they have to keep things looking great. Keep in mind that Pixar DOES have two original movies on its slate for the next three years as well. Bear and the Bow and Newt. Should be good times for the lamp.
Much as I'd like to, I can't really blame sequelitis just on Jeff Katzenberg. It's the way all the studios operate these days now that the movie industry's been corporatized. With the pressure to continue to get big numbers to keep up the stock price, nobody really wants to risk spending the money on a big-budget movie unless it's got a guaranteed audience thanks to familiarity (sequels, established brands) or nostalgia (all the re-dos of old TV shows and movies). Considering the financial climate these days, we should be glad were seeing any movies with original concepts - live-action or animated - from the major studios.
We're also forgetting that Hollywood is still recovering from the writer's strike. So even if it looks like nothing original is coming out this year or next things could get better in the future... Or until right before the next strike...
Wouldn't it be great if the studios just offered a fair deal in the first place so strikes wouldn't happen?
As a huge Pixar fan all of these sequels truly frighten me. Their streak has been so great for so long that one of the newest games in critical circles is to play "When will Pixar finally mess up." Sad to say that this run of old ideas points to that day coming quickly. To be fair, I think Toy Story 2 is not only better than Toy Story, it might be the greatest sequel ever created. But to test the fates again with a third installment, and to tack even more story onto what is already Pixar's weakest release (Cars), the well simply can't be that deep, even at Pixar.
Pschnebs...I have to kindly disagree. The movie industry is corporatized "these days"? It wasn't corporate 15 years ago when Toy Story 1 came out? The allure of Pixar has always been that in the face of corporate greed masters they were always able to find a balance between art and blockbuster. And Tuckenie...the writer's strike meant nothing could be written. Even a sequel to an already established franchise would require a new script, so I don't think it's fair to blame this run of sequels on that.
Pixar has had 10 movies over the course of 14 years and they have ONE sequel and TWO in the pipeline (maybe a 3rd). Why is this such a problem?!?! By the time they are done with these sequels, they will have 14-15 movies and 4 sequels. That is less than 25% of their movies over the course of 17 YEARS!!
For the CARS haters out there. The reason that CARS did poorly at the box office is because it was Pixar's lowest performer worldwide. CARS is #5 domestically, but #8 in foreign (only better than Bugs Life and Toy Story which are more than 10 years old {inflation!}).
CARS 2 is supposed to fix that since they are supposed to be leaving the US and going overseas. It should have a good story, but it should also broaden it's appeal (and hopefully sell more toys). Plus, I think the CARS universe has ALOT more stories to tell.
After all, Disney/Pixar is not a charity, but a profit making enterprise. Disney/Pixar can't continue doing ANYTHING (new stories, new attractions, new theme parks, etc) UNLESS they make money.
jables... The strike meant stuff also had to be written FASTER. That meant scripts that could have used more time had to be rushed out in more condition. See Wolverine and Terminator Salvation for examples. Even Star Trek, JJ Abrams is on the record saying he was dissatisfied with the script and the movie would've been better if they had the time to finish rewriting. In that kind of rushed situation it's almost impossible to get anything original of real quality greenlit.
Plus jedited is right. I really think the fear of Pixar sequels is not well thought out. These guys just made quality blockbusters out of a cooking rat, a non verbal robot, and an old man playing with balloons. And you're worried about CARS 2?! Really??!! I mean give them some credit already... Sheesh...
I don't know about an Incredibles 2 movie. Out of all of Pixar's properties this one screams television series.
A Finding Nemo sequel? What would the title of that one be, "Finding Nemo 2, Caught Again". I find most of Pixar's movies quite fulfilling, I would rather they spend their energies on new properties. I still find the idea of the Toy Story sequels unappealing, regardless of the quality.
One I hope they don't sequelize is Wall-e, that story was very complete.
I agree with Atemylunch. Incredibles screams TV series. I personally thought Buzz Lightyear of Star Command wasn't that bad of a series. I actually think there needs to be more familiar Disney characters on Disney Channel.
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