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A JimHillMedia.com exclusive: Your first look at the storyline for Disney / Pixar’s “Finding Nemo”
Just can’t wait ’til May 30th to find out what “Finding Nemo” is actually all about? Jim Hill brings you a detailed breakdown of the storyline for Pixar Animation Studio’s next sure-to-be smash.

Are you the type of person who peeks at the end of novels? Who rattles wrapped Christmas presents for a hint at their contents? Who spends hours poking around the Internet, hoping to uncover cool inside info about major motion pictures months before they open?
(Look at whom I’m talking to here. What a question. Sheesh …)
ANYWAY … If that’s truly the type of person you are (sadly, I’m one too), have I got a treat for you! The Web’s first blow-by-blow breakdown of the storyline for Pixar Animation Studio’s next big release, “Finding Nemo.”
Where did I come across this truly cool information? Sorry, but that would be telling. Let’s just say that this month’s trip out to Southern California proved to be exhausting, but very informative.
Now, a brief word of caution here before we proceed: the following “Finding Nemo” story contains significant spoilers. It will give away virtually every major plot point in the picture.
So — if you really want to be surprised in May as you head out to your local multiplex — now might be a good time to stop reading this article.
I’m serious, people. There be spoilers ahead. So proceed with caution.
Consider yourself warned, okay?
Still there?
Okay. Let’s get started, shall we?
Putting it bluntly, “Finding Nemo” is going to be a delight. Another certified smash from those clever SOBs in Emeryville, CA. Plan now to buy at least two tickets for “Nemo” during its initial theatrical release. Based on the work-in-progress version of the picture that I recently got to see, this film is just too good to see just once.
More importantly, make sure that the movie theater that you see “Finding Nemo” in has a really large screen. Better yet, try and find a multiplex that will be projecting the picture digitally. That way, you’ll actually get to see all of the amazing imagery that Pixar’s artists have crammed into every frame.
A word of caution, though. Parents should be aware — right from the get-go — that “Finding Nemo” has some fairly intense sequences. Scenes that may startle and/or genuinely scare some of the smaller members of the audience.
One of those sequences comes at the very start of the picture as Coral and Marlin — a happily married pair of Clownfish — carefully stand watch over their soon-to-hatch clutch of eggs. Suddenly a barracuda appears and — in an instant — Coral and the bulk of the eggs are gone. Only the heartbroken Marlin (voiced by Albert Brooks) and a single, damaged, unhatched egg remains.
Such is life on Australia’s beautiful if brutal Great Barrier Reef. Which is how Marlin ends up being such an overly protective parent to the curious and adventuring Nemo. Forever fretting that his son’s damaged fin (a result of the barracuda attack that killed Nemo’s mother, brothers and sisters) will keep Nemo from being a strong swimmer, Marlin is constantly trying to safeguard his son. Holding him back. Even keeping him out of school (yes, a school of fish … one of the many water-based jokes that you’ll hear in this picture) with the hope that it will help keep his sole surviving child safe.
Nemo — of course — chafes under his overly cautious father’s too-tight control. So Marlin finally relents and allows his son to go off to school. Of course, Nemo’s father immediately regrets this decision. Particularly after he learns the school’s first field trip will be to the dangerous Drop-off (I.E. the very spot where Coral and the eggs were attacked by the barracuda).
In a panic, Marlin rushes after his son and unintentionally embarrasses Nemo in front of his new school-mates: Pearl (a Flapjack Octopus), Sheldon (a Sea Horse) and Tad (a Long-Nosed Butterfly Fish).
Nemo is so embarrassed by his father’s behavior in front of his new friends that the little Clownfish feels that he must now do something to show how brave he is. So Nemo brazenly swims out into the deep water and deliberately “tags” a nearby boat with his fin. This impresses Tad, Pearl and Sheldon … until a scuba diver swims up behind Nemo and nets him.
Marlin looks on in horror as the scuba diver clambers up into the boat with his son still trapped in the net. The frantic father then swims after the boat … but is unable to keep as the scuba diver motors away.
It’s at this point in the picture that daffy Dory makes her entrance. Voiced by Ellen DeGeneres, Dory is a Regal Blue Tang with a sweet personality but some real short term memory problems. This means that the well-intentioned fish can’t retain any information for more than a minute or so … which explains the film’s running gag of Dory constantly feeling like she has to re-introduce herself to poor, harried Marlin.
Still, Dory is relentlessly optimistic. Which is why — when the Regal Blue Tang discovers the scuba diver’s mask (which somehow got left behind as he and Nemo were motoring away from the area of the deep Drop-off) has the diver’s address inside (P. Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney) Dory proposes that she and Marlin head off to rescue Nemo. Which is what they do.
It’s at this point in the picture that “Finding Nemo”‘s storyline basically splits in two. Marlin and Dory’s on-going quest to find Sydney Harbor and then rescue Nemo sort of plays out like an aquatic / neurotic version of “The Searchers.” At times comic (their encounter with Bruce, Anchor and Chum — three sharks who have formed their own support group in an effort to cut back on eating fish — is a highlight). At other turns, terrifying (the moment when Bruce falls back into his old habits, as the Great White relentlessly pursues Dory and Marlin through the hull of a sunken submarine, not to mention the pair’s far-too-close encounter with a hungry Anglerfish). Which makes this section of the story immensely entertaining.
But — if I had to pick my favorite part of this story — I think I’d have to go with Nemo’s half of the adventure. For the little Clownfish goes indeed get taken back to Sydney, where he winds up a prisoner in a dentist office aquarium. This portion of the picture then mutates into this brilliant comic riff on “The Great Escape.”
Once he’s been transferred to the dentist’s tank, Nemo finds that he’s surrounded by colorful characters: Gill, the tough but likable Moorish Idol (voiced by William Dafoe) who’s the leader of this motley crew; Bloat, the Blowfish who’s under a lot of pressure (voiced by Richard Kind); Peach, a Starfish (voiced by “The West Wing”‘s Allison Janney) who — thanks to the hours and hours of dental procedures she’s observed while being trapped in Dr. Sherman’s fish tank — has become something of a dental expert. Plus Bubbles, the obsessive Yellow Tang (voiced by Stephen Root) who just lives to retrieve the bubbles that come burbling out of the tank’s teeny-tiny treasure chest.
Gill, you see, has a plan which will allow all of the fish that are trapped in the doctor’s tank to return safely to the ocean. (Why is it so urgent that Gill and Co. get back to the sea? Well, as it turns out, Dr. S has this niece called Darla. And Doctor Sherman periodically gifts some of the fish he catches to his niece as pets. The only problem is … Darla is really rough on her pets. She reportedly likes to shakes fish to death … which is why Gill and Co. must find a way to escape their aquarium prison before Dr. S finds himself in a giving mood again.)
Toward this end, Gill has hatched a simple but ingenious plan. The imprisoned fish will deliberately try to make their fish tank as dirty as possible, which will force Dr. Sherman to clean the aquarium. This means that Dr. S will have to place Gill et al in little plastic bags along the countertop as he cleans out the inside of the tank.
From there … well, given that Dr. Sherman’s office directly overlooks Sydney Harbor, all the fish have to do is “hop” in their little plastic bags along the countertop over to the open window and then … jump out the window into the harbor to freedom.
It sounds like a fool-proof plan, doesn’t it? Well, it is … until Dr. S installs a brand-new filter in the fish tank. Then — try as they might — Gill and Co. just can’t get their aquarium dirty. This new super-efficient filter just sucked all the dirt and debris out of the water.
Meanwhile … back out in the open water, Marlin and Dory have survived encounters with swarms of jellyfish, not to mention almost getting swallowed by a whale. They’ve even lived through a trip through the “swirling vortex of death” as they tagged along with a squadron of thrill-seeking sea turtles (who sound suspiciously like a bunch of Southern Californian surfer dudes).
Eventually, Marlin and Dory wind up befriending a pelican named Nigel (voiced by Geoffrey Rush) who agrees to take the concerned Clownfish and absent minded Regal Blue Tang inside his bill and fly them straight to Dr. Sherman’s office.
Little do Marlin, Dory and Nigel realize — as they’re en route to the dentist — things have come to a head at Dr. Sherman’s. Darla had arrived and is now insisting that her uncle hand over his latest prize, the little Clownfish. So Dr. S reluctantly scoops up Nemo with a net and places him in a plastic bag. All seems lost …
When Nemo decides to pull a fast one on Dr. Sherman and his niece. Rolling over on his bank, the little Clownfish plays dead. Watching closely from inside the aquarium, Gill and the other fish immediately realize what Nemo is attempting: the old toilet escape. Nemo’s hoping that — if Dr. S thinks he’s dead — he’ll just flush the little Clownfish down the toilet … which will eventually allow Nemo to return to the sea.
The only problem is … Dr. Sherman doesn’t immediately decide to dispose of this alleged corpse by pouring the contents of the little plastic bag in the toilet. Distracted by his niece’s tantrums, he sets Nemo’s plastic bag down on the counter by the window on top of a dental mirror.
It’s at this exact moment that Marlin, Dory and Nigel come flying up to the open window of Dr. S’s office. And — peering out of Nigel’s bill — Marlin sees Nemo floating upside down inside the plastic bag and (understandably) mistakenly thinks that his son is now dead. Grief stricken, the father Clownfish asks Nigel to take he and Dory back to Sydney Harbor.
Meanwhile, Dr. S shuts the open office window (to prevent the pelican from getting back in). Now all of Nemo’s possible avenues of escape seem to be cut off. The little Clownfish seems doomed to end up in the trash …
Until Gill — with the help of all the other fish in the aquarium — launches himself out of the tank in a last gasp effort to save Nemo. The Moorish Idol lands on the same dental mirror that Nemo’s plastic bag is resting on. This impact then sends the little Clownfish soaring through the air, with Nemo’s plastic bag eventually landing in the dentist office’s spit sink. The plastic bag bursts open upon impact, leaving Nemo free to swim down the drain and eventually make his way back to the sea.
Dr. Sherman then scoops up Gill and places him back in the aquarium … where all the other fish congratulate the Moorish Idol on his daring rescue of the little Clownfish.
Meanwhile, back in Sydney Harbor … the grief stricken Marlin has already made his goodbyes to Dory and Nigel. Wishing to left alone in his time of sorrow. Literally moments later, the forgetful Regal Blue Tang runs into Nemo! Given all of her memory problems, it — of course — takes Dory a few minutes to recognize Marlin’s son. But — as soon as she does — these two take off in search of Nemo’s father.
Eventually, Dory and Nemo find Marlin. And there is — of course — a heartfelt reunion. But — since this is a Pixar Animation Studio production (I.E. The studio that believes “Why settle for a climax when you can have a climax on top of a climax on top of a climax?”) — the story can’t just end there.
Which is why an enormous fishing net suddenly descends into Sydney Harbor and scoops up a group of fish, including Dory! All seems lost … Until Nemo has an idea. Using some of the lessons that he learned in the aquarium in Dr. Sherman’s office (I.E. when a group works together, it can accomplish almost anything), the little Clownfish tells all of the fish trapped in the net that if they all work together and “swim down,” their combined force could possibly tear a hole in the net. Giving the terrified group of groupers an avenue of escape.
The only problem is … the panicked fish in the net don’t exactly understand what Nemo is trying to say to them. So — in order for his plan to succeed — the little Clownfish is going to actually have to get inside the rapidly rising net and show the fish what he wants them to do.
Of course, when Marlin hears about what Nemo wants to do, the father Clownfish is beside himself. Here, he’s just found his son again, only to have Nemo immediately risk his own life in an attempt to rescue Dory. Still — sensing a new strength and a sense of purpose in his son (not to mention a change in Marlin’s own once overly-protective nature) — Marlin agrees to let Nemo go into the net and try and save the other fish.
Once inside the net, Nemo convinces the group of frightened fish to work together and … Well, whaddaya know? The little Clownfish’s plan works! The fish all escape through a hole in the net and Marlin, Nemo & Dory all have a very happy reunion.
As the trio now make their way back to their home in the Great Barrier Reef, Nemo tells his father that he can’t wait to go back to school to tell all of his friends about his exciting adventures. And Marlin — who’s obviously also grown up a little bit because of his ordeal — is now finally willing to let go of his son. To allow his child to grow up and venture out into the world.
Sounds like a pretty happy ending, doesn’t it? Well, what about Gill and all of the other fish who are still trapped in Dr. Sherman’s aquarium? Well, I’m pleased to report that — just before fade-out — we get to see Gill and Co. in little plastic bags floating free across Sydney Harbor. So I guess that we can say that the “Great Escape” portion of the story ended happily as well.
Sounds like a fairly convoluted but pretty entertaining story, doesn’t it? Well, I should warn you that the version of “Finding Nemo” that I got to see was an early work-in-progress print. And (as often happens in Hollywood) films are subject to change right up ’til their release date. So — when you finally get to see this Pixar production at the end of May — that version of the film maybe somewhat different from the synopsis you just read.
I only wish that this bare bones description of “Finding Nemo”‘s plot that I’ve cobbled together to could do justice to the great quirky pieces of the picture. The weird little character bits (Like poor Deb. The Black-and-White Humbug fish in Dr. Sherman’s tank that’s voiced by Vickie Lewis. You see, Deb is convinced that the reflection that she sees in the aquarium’s glass is actually another Black-and-White Humbug fish named Flo. [Deb and Flo. Get it?] So Deb spends hours laughing and talking with this fictitious fish) which add so much to the fun of the film.
Then when you add in “Finding Nemo”‘s amazing art direction and how effortlessly the production team tosses off eye popping setting after setting … not to mention the great job that Pixar’s animators did with “Finding Nemo”‘s human characters (if this is the level of work that Pixar can do now with human figures, I can’t wait ’til next summer to get to see what the studio does with Brad Bird’s “The Incredibles”).
So where does this film fit into the grand scheme of things, Pixar-wise? Is “Finding Nemo” as good as “Toy Story” and “Toy Story II?” Sadly, no. Those two films (at least for me) are the gold standard by which all Pixar productions are to be judged. And “Finding Nemo” doesn’t quite reach that very high bar.
Nor is “Finding Nemo” really in the same class as Pixar’s 2001 release, “Monsters, Inc.”
(Again, my opinion. Your mileage may differ.) Why for? Well, “Nemo”‘s somewhat episodic nature (with the story stopping and starting whenever Marlin and Dory encounter another group of kooky characters) sometimes undercuts the film’s emotional momentum. Which prevents this picture from having the same sort of extremely satisfying emotional pay-off that “Monsters, Inc.” had (I.E. that moment when Sulley finally got to see Boo again).
Which (to my way of thinking, anyway) puts “Finding Nemo” in the same class as “A Bug’s Life.” Which — as you’ll remember — was also a visually ambitious film with a very large cast of characters. And — given that “Nemo”‘s director Andrew Stanton also helmed “A Bug’s Life” — it just makes sense that these two projects share some of the same virtues.
So, okay. “Finding Nemo” isn’t exactly “Toy Story” redux. It’s still miles ahead of the competition. A beautiful looking film with a genuinely entertaining story. Tons of colorful characters. If you’re in need of an entertaining night out at the movies, make plans now to go out to your local multiplex on May 30th to go see “Finding Nemo.”
That’s the only downside to the whole situation. Disney and Pixar have this great picture in the pipeline. But we’ve all still got to wait two more months before we finally get to see the finished version.
They’re actually just now putting the finishing touches on “Finding Nemo.” Thomas Newman (cousin to Academy Award winner Randy Newman, the guy who usually scores all of Pixar’s pictures) is waving the baton this time around. Earlier this month, Newman and an elite group of Hollywood’s best studio musicians trooped over to Culver City to record the film’s score on one of Sony’s soundstages.
Once the score and all the sound effects for this picture are finally in place, “Finding Nemo” should go from being merely a very entertaining film to something truly extraordinary. Based on what I’ve been able to see of this film to date, Pixar appears to have another huge hit on its hand.
But just how huge a hit? Given that this will be the very first Pixar Animation Studio release that Walt Disney Pictures has seen fit to release during the extremely lucrative but highly competitive summer season, it’s going to be really interesting to see how this film actually does at the box office. Will “Finding Nemo” go on to become the highest grossing picture that Pixar’s ever released? Or will “Nemo” — like so many of last year’s seemingly sure-fire blockbusters — end up under-performing as its legs get cut out from under it as the next box office behemoth (EX: “The Hulk,” “X-Men 2,” “Terminator 3,” “Tomb Raider 2,” and “The Matrix Reloaded” et al) comes rumbling in to your local multiplex.
Provided (of course) that the promotional campaign that Walt Disney Pictures has put in place for “Finding Nemo” can get the word out, I would imagine that this Pixar production will have no trouble pulling in at least $100 million. But how much bigger a blockbuster this fish story will turn out to be … that all depends on the vagaries of the summer movie-going season. When even well-received traditionally animated films like “Lilo & Stitch” have had to struggle to pull in $145 million.
So how will “Finding Nemo” ultimately end up doing at the box office? Check back in with JimHillMedia.com come late June / early July and we’ll discuss whether this CG project actually sank or swim.
But — in the meantime — if you’re an animation fan (or just someone who likes good movies), I strongly recommend that you make plans now to seek out “Finding Nemo.”
“Finding Nemo” images © Disney/PIXAR
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Before He Was 626: The Surprisingly Dark Origins of Disney’s Stitch

Hopes are high for Disney’s live-action version of Lilo & Stitch, which opens in theaters next week (on May 23rd to be exact). And – if current box office projections hold – it will sell more than $120 million worth of tickets in North America.
Stitch Before the Live-Action: What Fans Need to Know
But here’s the thing – there wouldn’t have been a hand-drawn version of Stitch to reimagine as a live-action film if it weren’t for Academy Award-winner Chris Sanders. Who – some 40 years ago – had a very different idea in mind for this project. Not an animated film or a live-action movie, for that matter. But – rather – a children’s picture book.
Sanders revealed the true origins of Lilo & Stitch in his self-published book, From Pitch to Stitch: The Origins of Disney’s Most Unusual Classic.

From Picture Book to Pitch Meeting
Chris – after he graduated from CalArts back in 1984 (this was three years before he began working for Disney) – landed a job at Marvel Comics. Which – because Marvel Animation was producing the Muppet Babies TV show – led to an opportunity to design characters for that animated series.
About a year into this gig (we’re now talking 1985), Sanders – in his time away from work – began noodling on a side project. As Chris recalled in From Pitch to Stitch:
“Early in my animation career, I tried writing a picture book that centered around a weird little creature that lived a solitary life in the forest. He was a monster, unsure of where he had come from, or where he belonged. I generated a concept drawing, wrote some pages and started making a sculpted version of him. But I soon abandoned it as the idea seemed too large and vague to fit in thirty pages or so.”
We now jump ahead 12 years or so. Sanders has quickly moved up through the ranks at Walt Disney Animation Studios. So much so that – by 1997 – Chris is now the Head of Story on Disney’s Mulan.


A Monster in the Forest Becomes Stitch on Earth
With Mulan deep in production, Sanders was looking for his next project when an opportunity came his way.
“I had dinner with Tom Schumacher, who was president of Feature Animation at the time. He asked if there was anything I might be interested in directing. After a little reflection, I realized that there was something: That old idea from a decade prior.”
When Sanders told Schumacher about the monster who lived alone in the forest…
“Tom offered the crucial observation that – because the animal world is already alien to us – I should consider relocating the creature to the human world.”
With that in mind, Chris dusted off the story and went to work.
Over the next three months, Sanders created a pitch book for the proposed animated film. What he came up with was very different from the version of Lilo & Stitch that eventually hit theaters in 2002.
The Most Dangerous Creature in the Known Universe
The pitch – first shared with Walt Disney Feature Animation staffers on January 9, 1998 – was titled: Lilo & Stitch: A love story of a girl and what she thinks is a dog.
This early version of Stitch was… not cute. Not cuddly. He was mean, selfish, self-centered – a career criminal. When the story opens, Stitch is in a security pod at an intergalactic trial, found guilty of 12,000 counts of hooliganism and attempted planetary enslavement.
Instead of being created by Jumba, Stitch leads a gang of marauders. His second-in-command? Ramthar, a giant, red shark-like brute.
When Stitch refuses to reveal the gang’s location, he’s sentenced to life on a maximum-security asteroid. But en route, his gang attacks the prison convoy. In the chaos, Stitch escapes in a hijacked pod and crash-lands on Earth.


Earth in Danger, Jumba on the Hunt
Terrified of what Stitch could do to our technologically inferior planet, the Grand Council Woman sends bounty hunter Jumba – along with a rule-abiding Cultural Contamination Control agent named Pleakley – to retrieve (or eliminate) Stitch.
Their mission must be secret, follow Earth laws, and – most importantly – ensure no harm comes to any humans.
Naturally, Stitch ignores all that.
After his crash, Stitch claws out of the wreckage, sees the lights of a nearby town, and screams, “I will destroy you all!” That plan is immediately derailed when he’s run over by a convoy of sugar cane trucks.
Waking up in the local humane society, Stitch sees a news report confirming the Federation is already hot on his trail. He needs to blend in. Fast.
Enter Lilo
Lilo is a lonely little girl, mourning her parents, looking for a pet. Stitch plays the role of a “cute little doggie” because it’s a means to an end. At this point, Lilo is just someone to use while he builds a communications device.
Using parts from her toys and a stolen police radio, Stitch contacts his old gang. But Ramthar, now the leader, isn’t thrilled. Still, Stitch sends a signal.
Then he builds an army.
Stitch Goes Full Skynet
Stitch constructs a small robot, sends it to the junkyard to build bigger robots. Soon, he has an army. When Ramthar and crew arrive, Stitch’s robots surround them. Ramthar is furious, but Stitch regains command.
Next, Stitch sets his robotic horde on a nearby town. Everything goes smoothly until a robot targets the hula studio where Lilo is dancing. As it lifts her in its claw, Stitch has a change of heart. He saves her.
From here, the plot begins to resemble the Lilo & Stitch we know today. Sort of.
The Ending That Never Was
In Sanders’ original version, it’s not Captain Gantu who kidnaps Lilo, but Ramthar. And when the Grand Council Woman comes to collect Stitch, Lilo produces a receipt from the humane society.
“I paid a $4 processing fee to adopt him. If you take Stitch, you’re stealing.”
The Grand Council Woman crumples the receipt and says, “I didn’t see it.”
Nani chimes in: “Well, I saw it.”
Then Jumba. Then one of Stitch’s old crew. Then a hula girl. And finally, Pleakley pulls out his CCC badge and says:
“Well, I am Pleakley Grathor, Cultural Contamination Control Agent No. 444. And I saw it.”
Pleakley saves Stitch.


How Roy E. Disney Made Stitch Cuddly
Ultimately, this version of Lilo & Stitch was streamlined. Roy E. Disney believed Stitch shouldn’t be nasty. Just naughty. And not by choice – he was designed that way.
Which is how Stitch became Experiment 626. A misunderstood creation of Jumba the mad scientist, not a hardened criminal with a vendetta.
The rest, as they say, is history.

Ricardo Montalbán’s Lost Role
Here’s a detail that even hardcore Lilo & Stitch fans may not know: Ricardo Montalbán—best known as Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island and Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan—was originally cast as the voice of Ramthar, Stitch’s second-in-command in this early version of the film. He had already recorded a significant amount of dialogue before the story was reworked following Roy E. Disney’s guidance. When Stitch evolved from a ruthless galactic outlaw to a misunderstood genetic experiment, Montalbán’s character (and much of the original gang concept) was written out entirely.
Which is kind of wild when you think about it. Wrath of Khan is widely considered the gold standard of Star Trek films. So yes, for a time, Khan himself was supposed to be part of Disney’s weirdest sci-fi comedy.
Stitch’s Legacy (and Why It Still Resonates)
Looking back at Stitch’s original story, it’s wild to think how close we came to getting a very different kind of movie. One where our favorite blue alien was less “ohana means family” and more “I’ll destroy you all.” But that transformation—from outlaw to outcast to ohana—is exactly what makes Lilo & Stitch so special.
So as the live-action version prepares to hit theaters, keep in mind that behind all the cuddly merch and tiki mugs lies one of Disney’s strangest, boldest, and most hard-won reinventions. One that started with a forest monster and became a beloved franchise about found family.
June 26th is officially Stitch Day—so mark your calendar. It’s a good excuse to celebrate just how far this little blue alien has come.
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How “An American Tail” Led to Disney’s “Hocus Pocus”

Over the last week, I’ve been delving into Witches Run Amok, Shannon Carlin’s oral history of the making of Disney’s Hocus Pocus. This book reveals some fascinating behind-the-scenes stories about the 1993 film that initially bombed at the box office but has since become a cult favorite, even spawning a sequel in 2022 that went on to become the most-watched release in Disney+ history.
But what really caught my eye in this 284-page hardcover wasn’t just the tales of Hocus Pocus’s unlikely rise to fame. Rather, it was the unexpected connections between Hocus Pocus and another beloved film—An American Tail. As it turns out, the two films share a curious origin story, one that begins in the mid-1980s, during the early days of the creative rebirth of Walt Disney Studios under Michael Eisner, Frank Wells, and Jeffrey Katzenberg.
The Birth of An American Tail
Let’s rewind to late 1984/early 1985, a period when Eisner, Wells, and Katzenberg were just getting settled at Disney and were on the hunt for fresh projects that would signal a new era at the studio. During this time, Katzenberg—tasked with revitalizing Disney Feature Animation—began meeting with talent across Hollywood, hoping to find a project that could breathe life into the struggling division.
One such meeting was with a 29-year-old writer and illustrator named David Kirschner. At the time, Kirschner’s biggest credit was illustrating children’s books featuring Muppets and Sesame Street characters, but he had an idea for a new project: a TV special about a mouse emigrating to America, culminating in the mouse’s arrival in New York Harbor on the same day as the dedication of the Statue of Liberty in 1886.

Katzenberg saw the patriotic appeal of the concept but ultimately passed on it, as he was focused on finding full-length feature projects for Disney’s animation department. Kirschner, undeterred, took his pitch elsewhere—to none other than Kathleen Kennedy, Steven Spielberg’s production partner. Kennedy was intrigued and invited Kirschner to Spielberg’s annual Fourth of July party to pitch the idea directly to the famed director.
Spielberg immediately saw the potential in Kirschner’s idea, but instead of a TV special, he envisioned a full-length animated feature film. This project would eventually become An American Tail, a tribute of sorts to Spielberg’s own grandfather, Philip Posner, who emigrated from Russia to the United States in the late 19th century. The film’s lead character, Fievel, was even named after Spielberg’s grandfather, whose Yiddish name was also Fievel.
Disney’s Loss Becomes Universal’s Gain
An American Tail went on to become a major success for Universal Pictures, which hadn’t been involved in an animated feature since the release of Pinocchio in Outer Space in 1965. Meanwhile, over at Disney, Eisner and Wells weren’t exactly thrilled that Katzenberg had let such a promising project slip through his fingers.
Not wanting to miss out on any future opportunities with Kirschner, Katzenberg quickly scheduled another meeting with him to discuss any other ideas he might have. And as fate would have it, Kirschner had just written a short story for Muppet Magazine called Halloween House, about a boy who is magically transformed into a cat by a trio of witches.
The Pitch That Sealed the Deal
Knowing Katzenberg could be a tough sell, Kirschner went all out to impress during his pitch. He requested access to the Disney lot 30 minutes early to set the stage for his presentation. When Katzenberg and the Disney development team walked into the conference room, they were greeted by a table covered in candy corn, a cauldron of dry ice fog, and a broom, mop, and vacuum cleaner suspended from the ceiling as if they were flying—evoking the magical world of Halloween House.
Katzenberg was reportedly unimpressed by the theatrical setup, muttering, “Oy, show-and-tell time” as he took his seat. But Kirschner knew exactly how to grab his attention. He started his pitch with the fact that Halloween was a billion-dollar business—a figure that made Katzenberg sit up and take notice. He listened attentively to Kirschner’s pitch, and by the time the meeting was over, Katzenberg was convinced. Halloween House would become Hocus Pocus, and Disney had its next big Halloween film.
A Bit of Hollywood Drama
Interestingly, Kirschner’s success with Hocus Pocus didn’t sit well with his old collaborators. About a year after the film’s release, Kirschner ran into Kathleen Kennedy at an Amblin holiday party, and she wasted no time in expressing her disappointment. According to Kirschner, Kennedy said, “You really hurt Steven.” When Kirschner asked how, she explained that Spielberg and Kennedy had given him his big break with An American Tail, but when he came up with the idea for his next film, he brought it to Disney rather than to them.
Hollywood can be a place where loyalty is valued—or, at least, perceived loyalty. At the same time, this was happening just as Katzenberg was leaving Disney and partnering with Spielberg and David Geffen to launch DreamWorks SKG, which only added to the tension. Loyalty, as Kirschner found out, can be an abstract concept in the entertainment industry.
A Halloween Favorite is Born
Despite its rocky start at the box office in 1993, Hocus Pocus has gone on to become a beloved part of Halloween pop culture. And, as Carlin’s book details, its success helped pave the way for more Disney Halloween-themed projects in the years that followed.

As for why Hocus Pocus was released in July of 1993 instead of during Halloween? That’s a story for another time, but it has something to do with another Halloween-themed project Disney was working on that year—Tim Burton’s The Nightmare Before Christmas—and Katzenberg finding himself in the awkward position of having to choose between keeping Bette Midler or Tim Burton happy.
For more behind-the-scenes stories about Hocus Pocus and other Disney films, be sure to check out Witches Run Amok by Shannon Carlin. It’s a fascinating read for any Disney fan!
And if you love hearing these kinds of behind-the-scenes stories about animation and film history, be sure to check out Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor, where Drew and I dive deep into all things movies, animation, and the creative decisions that shape the films we love. You can find us on your favorite podcast platforms or right here on JimHillMedia.com.
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How Disney’s “Bambi” led to the creation of Smokey Bear

When people talk about Disney’s “Bambi,” the scene that they typically cite as being the one from this 1942 film which then scarred them for life is – of course – the moment in this movie where Bambi’s mother gets shot by hunters.
Which is kind of ironic. Given that – if you watch this animated feature today – you’ll see that a lot of this ruined-my-childhood scene actually happens off-camera. I mean, you hear the rifle shot that takes down Bambi’s Mom. But you don’t actually see that Mama Deer get clipped.
Now for the scariest part of that movie that you actually see on-camera … Hands down, that has to be the forest fire sequence in “Bambi.” As the grown-up Bambi & his bride, Faline, desperately race through those woods, trying to find a path to safety as literally everything around them is ablaze … That sequence is literally nightmare fuel.

Mind you, the artists at Walt Disney Animation Studios had lots of inspiration for the forest fire sequence in “Bambi.” You see, in a typical year, the United States experiences – due to either natural phenomenon like lightning strikes or human carelessness – 100 forest fires. Whereas in 1940 (i.e., the year that Disney Studios began working in earnest of a movie version of Felix Salten’s best-selling movie), America found itself battling a record 360 forest fires.
Which greatly concerned the U.S. Forest Service. But not for the reason you might think.
Protecting the Forest for World War II
I mean, yes. Sure. Officials over in the Agricultural Department (That’s the arm of the U.S. government that manages the Forest Service) were obviously concerned about the impact that this record number of forest fires in 1940 had had on citizens. Not to mention all of the wildlife habitat that was now lost.
But to be honest, what really concerned government officials was those hundreds of thousands of acres of raw timber that had been consumed by these blazes. You see, by 1940, the world was on the cusp of the next world war. A conflict that the U.S. would inevitably be pulled into. And all that now-lost timber? It could have been used to fuel the U.S. war machine.
So with this in mind (and U.S. government officials now seeing an urgent need to preserve & protect this precious resource) … Which is why – in 1942 (just a few months after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor) – the U.S. Forest Service rolls out its first-ever forest fire prevention program.
Which – given that this was the early days of World War II – the slogan that the U.S. Forest Service initially chose for its forest fire prevention program is very in that era’s we’re-all-in-this-together / so-let’s-do-what-we-can-to-help-America’s war-effort esthetic – made a direct appeal to all those folks who were taking part in scrap metal drives: “Forest Defense is National Defense.”

And the poster that the U.S. Forest Service had created to support this campaign? … Well, it was well-meaning as well. It was done in the WPA style and showed men out in the forest, wielding shovels to ditch a ditch. They were trying to construct a fire break, which would then supposedly slow the forest fire that was directly behind them.
But the downside was … That “Forest Defense is National Defense” slogan – along with that poster which the U.S. Forest Service had created to support their new forest fire prevention program didn’t exactly capture America’s attention.
I mean, it was the War Years after all. A lot was going in the country at that time. But long story short: the U.S. Forest Service’s first attempt at launching a successful forest fire prevention program sank without a trace.
So what do you do in a situation like this? You regroup. You try something different.
Disney & Bambi to the Rescue
And within the U.S. government, the thinking now was “Well, what if we got a celebrity to serve as the spokesman for our new forest fire prevention program? Maybe that would then grab the public’s attention.”
The only problem was … Well, again, these are the War Years. And a lot of that era’s A-listers (people like Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, even Mel Brooks) had already enlisted. So there weren’t really a lot of big-name celebrities to choose from.
But then some enterprising official at the U.S. Forest Service came up with an interesting idea. He supposedly said “Hey, have you seen that new Disney movie? You know, the one with the deer? That movie has a forest fire in it. Maybe we should go talk with Walt Disney? Maybe he has some ideas about how we can better capture the public’s attention when it comes to our new forest fire prevention program?”
And it turns Walt did have an idea. Which was to use this government initiative as a way to cross-promote Disney Studio’s latest full-length animated feature, “Bambi.” Which been first released to theaters in August of 1942.
So Walt had artists at Disney Studio work up a poster that featured the grown-up versions of Bambi the Deer, Thumper the Rabbit & Flower the Skunk. As this trio stood in some tall grasses, they looked imploring out at whoever was standing in front of this poster. Above them was a piece of text that read “Please Mister, Don’t Be Careless.” And below these three cartoon characters was an additional line that read “Prevent Forest Fires. Greater Danger Than Ever!”

According to folks I’ve spoken with at Disney’s Corporate Archives, this “Bambi” -based promotional campaign for the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention campaign was a huge success. So much so that – as 1943 drew to a close – this division of the Department of Agriculture reportedly reached out to Walt to see if he’d be willing to let the U.S. Forest Service continue to use these cartoon characters to help raise the public’s awareness of fire safety.
Walt – for reasons known only to Mr. Disney – declined. Some have suggested that — because “Bambi” had actually lost money during its initial theatrical release in North America – that Walt was now looking to put that project behind him. And if there were posters plastered all over the place that then used the “Bambi” characters that then promoted the U.S.’s forest fire prevention efforts … Well, it would then be far harder for Mr. Disney to put this particular animated feature in the rear view mirror.
Introducing Smokey Bear
Long story short: Walt said “No” when it came to reusing the “Bambi” characters to promote the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention program. But given how successful the previous cartoon-based promotional campaign had been … Well, some enterprising employee at the Department of Agriculture reportedly said “Why don’t we come up with a cartoon character of our own?”
So – for the Summer of 1944 – the U.S. Forest Service (with the help of the Ad Council and the National Association of State Foresters) came up with a character to help promote the prevention of forest fires. And his name is Smokey Bear.
Now a lot of thought had gone into Smokey’s creation. Right from the get-go, it was decided that he would be an American black bear (NOT a brown bear or a grizzly). To make this character seem approachable, Smokey was outfitted with a ranger’s hat. He also wore a pair of blue jeans & carried a bucket.
As for his debut poster, Smokey was depicted as pouring water over a still-smoldering campfire. And below this cartoon character was printed Smokey’s initial catchphrase. Which was “Care will prevent 9 out of 10 forest fires!”

Which makes me think that this slogan was written by the very advertising executive who wrote “Four out of five dentists recommend sugarless gum for their patients who chew gum.”
Anyway … By the Summer of 1947, Smokey got a brand-new slogan. The one that he uses even today. Which is “Only YOU can prevent forest fires.”
The Real Smokey Bear
Now where this gets interesting is – in the Summer of 1950 – there was a terrible forest fire up in the Capitan Mountains of New Mexico. And over the course of this blaze, a bear cub climbed high up into a tree to try & escape those flames.
Firefighters were finally able to rescue that cub. But he was so badly injured in that fire that he was shipped off to the National Zoo in Washington, D.C. and nursed back to health. And since this bear really couldn’t be released back in the wild at this point, he was then put on exhibit.
And what does this bear’s keepers decide to call him? You guessed it: Smokey.

And due to all the news coverage that this orphaned bear got, he eventually became the living symbol of the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention program. Which then meant that this particular Smokey Bear got hit with a ton of fan mail. So much so that the National Zoo in Washington D.C. wound up with its own Zip Code.
“Smokey the Bear” Hit Song
And on the heels of a really-for-real Smokey Bear taking up residence in our nation’s capital, Steve Nelson & Jack Rollins decide to write a song that shined a spotlight on this fire-fightin’ bruin. Here’s the opening stanza:
With a ranger’s hat and shovel and a pair of dungarees,
You will find him in the forest always sniffin’ at the breeze,
People stop and pay attention when he tells them to beware
Because everybody knows that he’s the fire-preventin’ bear
Believe or not, even with lyrics like these, “Smokey the Bear” briefly topped the Country charts in the Summer of 1950. Thanks to a version of this song that was recorded by Gene Autry, the Singing Cowboy.
By the way, it was this song that started all of the confusion in regards to Smokey Bear’s now. You see, Nelson & Rollins – because they need the lyrics of their song to scan properly – opted to call this fire-fightin’-bruin Smokey THE Bear. Rather than Smokey Bear. Which has been this cartoon character’s official name since the U.S. Forest Service first introduced him back in 1944.
“The Ballad of Smokey the Bear”
Further complicating this issue was “The Ballad of Smokey the Bear,” which was a stop-motion animated special that debuted on NBC in late November of 1966. Produced by Rankin-Bass as a follow-up to their hugely popular “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” (which premiered on the Peacock Network in December of 1964) … This hour-long TV show also put a “THE” in the middle of Smokey Bear’s name because the folks at Rankin-Bass thought his name sounded better that way.
And speaking of animation … Disney’s “Bambi” made a brief return to the promotional campaign for the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention program in the late 1980s. This was because the Company’s home entertainment division had decided to release this full-length animated feature on VHS.
What’s kind of interesting, though, is the language used on the “Bambi” poster is a wee different than the language that’s used on Smokey’s poster. It reads “Protect Our Forest Friends. Only You Can Prevent Wildfires.” NOT “Forest Fires.”
Anyway, that’s how Disney’s “Bambi” led to the creation of Smokey Bear. Thanks for bearin’ with me as I clawed my way through this grizzly tale.
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