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When Chairman and CEO Robert A. Iger took the stage Thursday
at The Walt Disney Company's annual shareholders meeting in San
Francisco, he was surrounded by smiling faces – from
the toe-tapping, grinning Mickey Mouse on his new iWatch to nearly all of the 800-plus
people gathered at The Palace of Fine Arts.

Iger said the iWatch "is going to be in the market real soon
and I just have the idea that it's going to be a big hit. I have an original
Mickey Mouse watch from the 1930s and I usually wear it on special occasions
like this. I just love its link to Disney's heritage and the watch is a prized
possession.

"But," he continued, "the symbolism of Mickey Mouse on this
new device just spoke to me. … The original watch reminds me where Disney
comes from and I think this one surely reminds me of where Disney is going. It
just seemed fitting to wear it here in San Francisco
where creativity and innovation intersect and actually change the world."

Following his praise of the Bay Area, Iger reported Disney's
fourth straight year of record results, assuring shareholders and Disney fans
that there were plenty of reasons for the cheerful mood as he recapped
highlights of the past year and offered a very optimistic projection for the
future growth and earnings.

Disney revealed more details about its plans for the "Star
Wars" franchise and announced a sequel to the studio's box-office animated
juggernaut "Frozen," featuring a story idea by its directors, Jennifer Lee and
Chris Buck.


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"Driven by extraordinary creativity, innovative technology
and global expansion, 2014 was in fact the biggest, best year in our history," Iger
said. "Our revenue was up 8 percent to $48.8 billion, our net income was up 22
percent to $7.5 billion, and our earnings per-share was up 26 percent to and $4.26.

"Total shareholder return for the year was 38 percent – almost
double the 20 percent return delivered by the S&P 500 during the same
period – and we also paid our 59th straight year of dividends, increasing the
dividend per share by 34 percent."

He recounted a few recent highlights:

Disney's Studio Entertainment division found gold in the
silver screen. With some of 2014's biggest movies, "Guardians of the Galaxy," "Big
Hero 6" and others, the company surpassed $4 billion in global box office for
the second year in a row.

"You know that animation is incredibly important to this
company and that it has always been the very heart and soul of Disney," Iger
said. "Throughout Disney's history our most successful time as a company has
been when our animation is strong and thriving and that's certainly the case
today. The Walt Disney Company is once again home to some of the best animation
in the world with the box office and awards to prove it."

With nearly $1.3 billion in global box office, "Frozen" is
the most successful animated movie in history. Disney's second- and third-most
successful animated movies are "The Lion King" and "Big Hero 6."


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And, Iger proudly noted the studio recently became the first
to win Oscars the same year for Best Animated Feature, "Big Hero 6," and Best
Animated Short, "Feast."

More guests visited Disney's parks and resorts than ever
before. The historic expansion of Fantasyland at Walt Disney World was recently
completed as well as the roll out of My Magic Plus. "So far more than 10
millions guests have used our Magic Bands," Iger said, "and we're getting rave
reviews."

ESPN continued to reign as the "No. 1 sports brand." The
college football playoff coverage "is a perfect example of ESPN at the top of
its game," Iger said, "and the 'Megacast' gave fans unprecedented access to the
action, offering more than a dozen different ways to watch their teams battle
it out on air, online and on just about every mobile device you can imagine.

"For the final, more than 33 million fans tuned in to see Ohio
State beat Oregon
for the National Championship – the largest single audience in the history of
cable television," he added. "No one but ESPN could do something so big, so
well."

ABC launched its "best season in recent memory and 'Good
Morning America' completed another year as the No. 1 morning show." Iger said
the network is "thriving with compelling programming that sets it apart,
especially when it comes to reflecting the rich diversity of the world around
us. … Thanks to the winning combination of inclusion and quality, ABC is the
only network to grow its audience this season."

Iger also reported that "11 separate franchises at Disney
Consumer Products generated more than $1 billion each in global annual sales."

Disney Interactive achieved its first year of profitability.



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And, Disney's stock price continues to climb.

Iger noted Thursday morning that shares were trading above $105,
compared to about $80 a year ago, giving the company a market cap of just about
$180 billion – around $40 billion higher than it was at the 2014 shareholder
meeting.

Disney is "consistently recognized as one of the world's
most admired companies, respected for our product and our people, as well as
our performance."

Iger noted that several thousand former servicemen and women
have joined the Walt Disney family in the past few years as part of an
initiative to hire more veterans. "The vets at Disney are in good company
because they're among our 180,000 cast members and employees around the world
who work tirelessly to tell great stories and create magic in the lives of
people everyday," he said.

Iger also paid tribute to San Francisco
as "a great Disney city," home to The Walt Disney Family Museum, KGO TV, some
Disney Stores, Pixar "right across the bay in Emeryville. … And LucasFilm is
right across the street. So the Force is definitely with us."

That opened the door for him to talk about "Star Wars." Disney
is moving quickly to reap the benefits of its $4 billion purchase of Lucasfilm
in 2012.

"Star Wars: Episode VII, The Force Awakens," directed by J.J.
Abrams and featuring original cast members Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and
Mark Hamill, opens Dec. 18. After unveiling some news footage featuring Stephen
Colbert and others reacting to the release of the teaser trailer, along with
bits of some fan parodies, Iger said the teaser for Episode VII has been "viewed
more than 150 million times and … that response is unbelievable."


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He then talked about the future for the franchise, sharing a
piece of concept art for the first standalone Star Wars movie, "Rogue One," from
a script being penned by Chris Weitz ("Cinderella") and based on an idea by
Oscar-winning visual effects supervisor John Knoll. "Rogue One" will be
directed by Gareth Edwards and star Felicity Jones. Filming begins this summer
in London and the movie will open Dec. 16, 2016.

Iger also announced that Rian Johnson will write and direct "Star
Wars: Episode VIII," which will hit theaters on May 26, 2017, but offered no other details.

"So, between now and 2017, we're going to bring three Star
Wars films to the world," Iger said. "It's obviously an incredibly exciting
time for our company, but not just because of (Lucasfilm). We have so much to
look forward to.

" … Our studio has been setting the bar pretty high these
days, too. And it only goes up from here. This is a huge year and 'Star Wars: The
Force Awakens' is just one of the fantastic movies on our slate for 2015.

"Let's start with Marvel. Obviously, an incredible success
story since joining Disney. The studio goes from strength to strength to
strength. In fact, the five Marvel movies we've released so far have averaged
almost $1 billion each in global box office and we're planning to release 11
more Marvel films in the next four years."

This year's Marvel's offerings include the second film
pairing Iron Man, Captain America,
Thor and The Incredible Hulk in "Avengers: Age of Ultron" on May 1. "Ant-Man," starring
Paul Rudd, will hit multiplexes on July 17. Iger also mentioned the recent deal
with Sony that allows Disney to bring the iconic web-slinger Spider-Man back to
the Marvel cinematic universe but offered no details as to how and when that
might happen.


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He said the company has high hopes for its live-action "Cinderella,"
which is already charming critics and delighting audiences. Iger also promoted
the May 22 release of "Tomorrowland," helmed by "The Incredibles" director Brad
Bird, a member of the Pixar brain trust, and starring George Clooney in his
first Disney film.

And expect another great year for animation.

"When Pixar joined Disney in 2006, we were hoping to spark a
creative resurgence in animation across the company and, looking at our recent
stream of successes, I think we can actually say that it worked," Iger said. "Pixar
has always been home to some of the most original and innovative stories in
animation and we're thrilled to share two new Pixar films with the world this
year."

"Inside Out," directed by Pete Docter, will be released on
June 18. "The Good Dinosaur," directed by Pete Sohn and based on a story by Bob
Peterson, will follow on Nov. 18.

"Last summer, I celebrated my 40th anniversary with the
company and I can honestly say that I've never been prouder to be part of
Disney nor have I even been more optimistic about the future of The Walt Disney
Company," Iger said.

Look forward to these things:


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The 60th anniversary of Disneyland
kicks off with a celebration beginning in May.

The fourth D23 Expo, for the ultimate Disney fans, will be
held Aug. 14-16 in Anaheim.

An "Avatar"-themed land at Disney's Animal Kingdom will open
in 2017. An artist's concept drawing shows a Jungle Cruise-like trip through
the panoramas of Pandora. Iger said, "If you thought Pandora looked magical in
the movie, just wait until you see Pandora in person."

Guests to Hong Kong Disneyland be getting the first true
Marvel-themed attraction when The Iron Man Experience opens next year.

And, Iger also indicated "there's growing excitement about
the Shanghai Disney Resort. This is the largest investment we've ever made
outside of the United States
and it well may be the single most creatively ambitious project that we've ever
attempted. … We're going to wrap up major construction by the end of this
year and we're already planning a spectacular grand opening celebration for the
spring of the next year."


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After this, the meeting moved to the business at hand, which
included the election of 10 members of the Board of Directors; hiring
PricewaterhouseCooper LLP as the company's independent accountants for the
fiscal year ending Oct. 3, 2015;
and approving an advisory resolution regarding executive compensation.

A majority of the shareholders voting by proxy followed the
recommendations of the Board and rejected two proposals by shareholders: The
first would have separated the CEO and chairman roles after Iger steps down. The
second would have limited accelerated executive pay.

Of the 1,694,975,006 common shares of Disney stock, 87
percent (representing 1,468,276,676 common shares) had voted by proxy on or
before Jan. 12 It seems few people wanted to do anything that might throw a
monkeywrench into Disney's engine. The company is operating on all cylinders
with lots of fuel to propel it into the future.

After the quick business session, Iger opened the floor to
questions from shareholders for more than 50 minutes.

In response to a young boy named Gideon, there was an
apparent tip-of-the-hand confirmation that Disney Hollywood Studios would soon
be getting a new name, but Iger learned the company was not ready to reveal it.


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After a pediatric nurse and a doctor praised Disney for its
stance limiting smoking in most films marketed to children but reporting that
Marvel's films haven't had the same compliance rate, Iger declared that the
company will "absolutely prohibit" depictions of tobacco use "across the board:
Marvel, Lucas, Pixar and Disney" in all films rated PG-13 and under.

Sorry, that means no more cigars for the character of Tony
Stark in the "Avengers" and "Iron Man" movies. The only exception, Iger
pledged, will be in films which involve historical figures known for smoking.

Responding to a Disneyland cast
member who relayed that his wife has been working as a custodian at the resort
for four years but still isn't making $10 an hour, Iger said the company has
already agreed to raise its minimum wage to $10 an hour by 2016.

Some of the other questions are responses:


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Despite being "blown away" by the success of a recent
graphic novel series featuring Dreamfinder and Figment from Florida's Journey
into Imagination, Iger said there's currently no plans to bring the characters
back to Epcot.

Answering one man's questions, Iger relayed that his favorite attraction
is Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean. He also indicated that
there's room for growth at both Disneyland and Disney California
Adventure and no plans to add a third gate to the Anaheim Resort anytime
soon.

And Disney's new Chief Operations Officer Thomas Staggs
came to Iger's rescue when Brooke, a six-year-old girl asked who was the
first princess aboard a Disney Cruise Line ship. Staggs told the girl:
"We couldn't chose just one, but Cinderella was certainly there."

After the meeting, I talked to Kathleen Eddy of Elk Grove
and Steve Segal, both attending their first Disney shareholder event.

"I was very impressed with Bob Iger and how he handled all
of the questions, especially those on major issues," Eddy said. "I also enjoyed
seeing John Lasseter in person. He just seems like the nicest, most interesting
person. 'Frozen Fever' was great fun and it was good to hear that 'Frozen 2' is
in the works. I want to see how the standalone Star Wars film comes together,
but I'm intrigued by it."

"One of the best things about it was meeting all these other
like-minded Disney fans in line," she added. "I talked with some of the nicest
people."


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"It was more or less what I expected," said Segal, an
animator who worked on the landmark "Toy Story" and now teaches animation at a
college in San Francisco. "I don't
know that I'd come from Utah for
a shareholders meeting in San Francisco,
but I enjoyed myself.

"I thought Bob Iger was very smooth on his feet and he did a
great job responding to questions from the audience," he continued. "But I also
thought the guy seeking approval for the shareholder initiative on the
separation of CEO and Chairman made a good case and I would have liked to learn
more why Iger and the Board opposed it."

Segal was also "excited to learn that the 'Avatar'-themed
land was going to become part of Animal Kingdom because that park could use a
little more fantasy."

As for the questions from the children, Segal said, "I
thought the kids were great, but Disney is a kid-friendly company if there was
ever was one."

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Before He Was 626: The Surprisingly Dark Origins of Disney’s Stitch

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Before Stitch

Hopes are high for Disney’s live-action version of Lilo & Stitch, which opens in theaters next week (on May 23rd to be exact). And – if current box office projections hold – it will sell more than $120 million worth of tickets in North America.

Stitch Before the Live-Action: What Fans Need to Know

But here’s the thing – there wouldn’t have been a hand-drawn version of Stitch to reimagine as a live-action film if it weren’t for Academy Award-winner Chris Sanders. Who – some 40 years ago – had a very different idea in mind for this project. Not an animated film or a live-action movie, for that matter. But – rather – a children’s picture book.

Sanders revealed the true origins of Lilo & Stitch in his self-published book, From Pitch to Stitch: The Origins of Disney’s Most Unusual Classic.

From Picture Book to Pitch Meeting

Chris – after he graduated from CalArts back in 1984 (this was three years before he began working for Disney) – landed a job at Marvel Comics. Which – because Marvel Animation was producing the Muppet Babies TV show – led to an opportunity to design characters for that animated series.

About a year into this gig (we’re now talking 1985), Sanders – in his time away from work – began noodling on a side project. As Chris recalled in From Pitch to Stitch:

“Early in my animation career, I tried writing a picture book that centered around a weird little creature that lived a solitary life in the forest. He was a monster, unsure of where he had come from, or where he belonged. I generated a concept drawing, wrote some pages and started making a sculpted version of him. But I soon abandoned it as the idea seemed too large and vague to fit in thirty pages or so.”

We now jump ahead 12 years or so. Sanders has quickly moved up through the ranks at Walt Disney Animation Studios. So much so that – by 1997 – Chris is now the Head of Story on Disney’s Mulan.

A Monster in the Forest Becomes Stitch on Earth

With Mulan deep in production, Sanders was looking for his next project when an opportunity came his way.

“I had dinner with Tom Schumacher, who was president of Feature Animation at the time. He asked if there was anything I might be interested in directing. After a little reflection, I realized that there was something: That old idea from a decade prior.”

When Sanders told Schumacher about the monster who lived alone in the forest…

“Tom offered the crucial observation that – because the animal world is already alien to us – I should consider relocating the creature to the human world.”

With that in mind, Chris dusted off the story and went to work.

Over the next three months, Sanders created a pitch book for the proposed animated film. What he came up with was very different from the version of Lilo & Stitch that eventually hit theaters in 2002.

The Most Dangerous Creature in the Known Universe

The pitch – first shared with Walt Disney Feature Animation staffers on January 9, 1998 – was titled: Lilo & Stitch: A love story of a girl and what she thinks is a dog.

This early version of Stitch was… not cute. Not cuddly. He was mean, selfish, self-centered – a career criminal. When the story opens, Stitch is in a security pod at an intergalactic trial, found guilty of 12,000 counts of hooliganism and attempted planetary enslavement.

Instead of being created by Jumba, Stitch leads a gang of marauders. His second-in-command? Ramthar, a giant, red shark-like brute.

When Stitch refuses to reveal the gang’s location, he’s sentenced to life on a maximum-security asteroid. But en route, his gang attacks the prison convoy. In the chaos, Stitch escapes in a hijacked pod and crash-lands on Earth.

Earth in Danger, Jumba on the Hunt

Terrified of what Stitch could do to our technologically inferior planet, the Grand Council Woman sends bounty hunter Jumba – along with a rule-abiding Cultural Contamination Control agent named Pleakley – to retrieve (or eliminate) Stitch.

Their mission must be secret, follow Earth laws, and – most importantly – ensure no harm comes to any humans.

Naturally, Stitch ignores all that.

After his crash, Stitch claws out of the wreckage, sees the lights of a nearby town, and screams, “I will destroy you all!” That plan is immediately derailed when he’s run over by a convoy of sugar cane trucks.

Waking up in the local humane society, Stitch sees a news report confirming the Federation is already hot on his trail. He needs to blend in. Fast.

Enter Lilo

Lilo is a lonely little girl, mourning her parents, looking for a pet. Stitch plays the role of a “cute little doggie” because it’s a means to an end. At this point, Lilo is just someone to use while he builds a communications device.

Using parts from her toys and a stolen police radio, Stitch contacts his old gang. But Ramthar, now the leader, isn’t thrilled. Still, Stitch sends a signal.

Then he builds an army.

Stitch Goes Full Skynet

Stitch constructs a small robot, sends it to the junkyard to build bigger robots. Soon, he has an army. When Ramthar and crew arrive, Stitch’s robots surround them. Ramthar is furious, but Stitch regains command.

Next, Stitch sets his robotic horde on a nearby town. Everything goes smoothly until a robot targets the hula studio where Lilo is dancing. As it lifts her in its claw, Stitch has a change of heart. He saves her.

From here, the plot begins to resemble the Lilo & Stitch we know today. Sort of.

The Ending That Never Was

In Sanders’ original version, it’s not Captain Gantu who kidnaps Lilo, but Ramthar. And when the Grand Council Woman comes to collect Stitch, Lilo produces a receipt from the humane society.

“I paid a $4 processing fee to adopt him. If you take Stitch, you’re stealing.”

The Grand Council Woman crumples the receipt and says, “I didn’t see it.”

Nani chimes in: “Well, I saw it.”

Then Jumba. Then one of Stitch’s old crew. Then a hula girl. And finally, Pleakley pulls out his CCC badge and says:

“Well, I am Pleakley Grathor, Cultural Contamination Control Agent No. 444. And I saw it.”

Pleakley saves Stitch.

How Roy E. Disney Made Stitch Cuddly

Ultimately, this version of Lilo & Stitch was streamlined. Roy E. Disney believed Stitch shouldn’t be nasty. Just naughty. And not by choice – he was designed that way.

Which is how Stitch became Experiment 626. A misunderstood creation of Jumba the mad scientist, not a hardened criminal with a vendetta.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Ricardo Montalbán’s Lost Role

Here’s a detail that even hardcore Lilo & Stitch fans may not know: Ricardo Montalbán—best known as Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island and Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan—was originally cast as the voice of Ramthar, Stitch’s second-in-command in this early version of the film. He had already recorded a significant amount of dialogue before the story was reworked following Roy E. Disney’s guidance. When Stitch evolved from a ruthless galactic outlaw to a misunderstood genetic experiment, Montalbán’s character (and much of the original gang concept) was written out entirely.

Which is kind of wild when you think about it. Wrath of Khan is widely considered the gold standard of Star Trek films. So yes, for a time, Khan himself was supposed to be part of Disney’s weirdest sci-fi comedy.

Stitch’s Legacy (and Why It Still Resonates)

Looking back at Stitch’s original story, it’s wild to think how close we came to getting a very different kind of movie. One where our favorite blue alien was less “ohana means family” and more “I’ll destroy you all.” But that transformation—from outlaw to outcast to ohana—is exactly what makes Lilo & Stitch so special.

So as the live-action version prepares to hit theaters, keep in mind that behind all the cuddly merch and tiki mugs lies one of Disney’s strangest, boldest, and most hard-won reinventions. One that started with a forest monster and became a beloved franchise about found family.

June 26th is officially Stitch Day—so mark your calendar. It’s a good excuse to celebrate just how far this little blue alien has come.

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How “An American Tail” Led to Disney’s “Hocus Pocus”

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Over the last week, I’ve been delving into Witches Run Amok, Shannon Carlin’s oral history of the making of Disney’s Hocus Pocus. This book reveals some fascinating behind-the-scenes stories about the 1993 film that initially bombed at the box office but has since become a cult favorite, even spawning a sequel in 2022 that went on to become the most-watched release in Disney+ history.

But what really caught my eye in this 284-page hardcover wasn’t just the tales of Hocus Pocus’s unlikely rise to fame. Rather, it was the unexpected connections between Hocus Pocus and another beloved film—An American Tail. As it turns out, the two films share a curious origin story, one that begins in the mid-1980s, during the early days of the creative rebirth of Walt Disney Studios under Michael Eisner, Frank Wells, and Jeffrey Katzenberg.

The Birth of An American Tail

Let’s rewind to late 1984/early 1985, a period when Eisner, Wells, and Katzenberg were just getting settled at Disney and were on the hunt for fresh projects that would signal a new era at the studio. During this time, Katzenberg—tasked with revitalizing Disney Feature Animation—began meeting with talent across Hollywood, hoping to find a project that could breathe life into the struggling division.

One such meeting was with a 29-year-old writer and illustrator named David Kirschner. At the time, Kirschner’s biggest credit was illustrating children’s books featuring Muppets and Sesame Street characters, but he had an idea for a new project: a TV special about a mouse emigrating to America, culminating in the mouse’s arrival in New York Harbor on the same day as the dedication of the Statue of Liberty in 1886.

David Kirschner
David Kirschner (IMDb)

Katzenberg saw the patriotic appeal of the concept but ultimately passed on it, as he was focused on finding full-length feature projects for Disney’s animation department. Kirschner, undeterred, took his pitch elsewhere—to none other than Kathleen Kennedy, Steven Spielberg’s production partner. Kennedy was intrigued and invited Kirschner to Spielberg’s annual Fourth of July party to pitch the idea directly to the famed director.

Spielberg immediately saw the potential in Kirschner’s idea, but instead of a TV special, he envisioned a full-length animated feature film. This project would eventually become An American Tail, a tribute of sorts to Spielberg’s own grandfather, Philip Posner, who emigrated from Russia to the United States in the late 19th century. The film’s lead character, Fievel, was even named after Spielberg’s grandfather, whose Yiddish name was also Fievel.

Disney’s Loss Becomes Universal’s Gain

An American Tail went on to become a major success for Universal Pictures, which hadn’t been involved in an animated feature since the release of Pinocchio in Outer Space in 1965. Meanwhile, over at Disney, Eisner and Wells weren’t exactly thrilled that Katzenberg had let such a promising project slip through his fingers.

Not wanting to miss out on any future opportunities with Kirschner, Katzenberg quickly scheduled another meeting with him to discuss any other ideas he might have. And as fate would have it, Kirschner had just written a short story for Muppet Magazine called Halloween House, about a boy who is magically transformed into a cat by a trio of witches.

The Pitch That Sealed the Deal

Knowing Katzenberg could be a tough sell, Kirschner went all out to impress during his pitch. He requested access to the Disney lot 30 minutes early to set the stage for his presentation. When Katzenberg and the Disney development team walked into the conference room, they were greeted by a table covered in candy corn, a cauldron of dry ice fog, and a broom, mop, and vacuum cleaner suspended from the ceiling as if they were flying—evoking the magical world of Halloween House.

Katzenberg was reportedly unimpressed by the theatrical setup, muttering, “Oy, show-and-tell time” as he took his seat. But Kirschner knew exactly how to grab his attention. He started his pitch with the fact that Halloween was a billion-dollar business—a figure that made Katzenberg sit up and take notice. He listened attentively to Kirschner’s pitch, and by the time the meeting was over, Katzenberg was convinced. Halloween House would become Hocus Pocus, and Disney had its next big Halloween film.

A Bit of Hollywood Drama

Interestingly, Kirschner’s success with Hocus Pocus didn’t sit well with his old collaborators. About a year after the film’s release, Kirschner ran into Kathleen Kennedy at an Amblin holiday party, and she wasted no time in expressing her disappointment. According to Kirschner, Kennedy said, “You really hurt Steven.” When Kirschner asked how, she explained that Spielberg and Kennedy had given him his big break with An American Tail, but when he came up with the idea for his next film, he brought it to Disney rather than to them.

Hollywood can be a place where loyalty is valued—or, at least, perceived loyalty. At the same time, this was happening just as Katzenberg was leaving Disney and partnering with Spielberg and David Geffen to launch DreamWorks SKG, which only added to the tension. Loyalty, as Kirschner found out, can be an abstract concept in the entertainment industry.

A Halloween Favorite is Born

Despite its rocky start at the box office in 1993, Hocus Pocus has gone on to become a beloved part of Halloween pop culture. And, as Carlin’s book details, its success helped pave the way for more Disney Halloween-themed projects in the years that followed.

As for why Hocus Pocus was released in July of 1993 instead of during Halloween? That’s a story for another time, but it has something to do with another Halloween-themed project Disney was working on that year—Tim Burton’s The Nightmare Before Christmas—and Katzenberg finding himself in the awkward position of having to choose between keeping Bette Midler or Tim Burton happy.

For more behind-the-scenes stories about Hocus Pocus and other Disney films, be sure to check out Witches Run Amok by Shannon Carlin. It’s a fascinating read for any Disney fan!

And if you love hearing these kinds of behind-the-scenes stories about animation and film history, be sure to check out Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor, where Drew and I dive deep into all things movies, animation, and the creative decisions that shape the films we love. You can find us on your favorite podcast platforms or right here on JimHillMedia.com.

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How Disney’s “Bambi” led to the creation of Smokey Bear

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When people talk about Disney’s “Bambi,” the scene that they typically cite as being the one from this 1942 film which then scarred them for life is – of course – the moment in this movie where Bambi’s mother gets shot by hunters.

Which is kind of ironic. Given that – if you watch this animated feature today – you’ll see that a lot of this ruined-my-childhood scene actually happens off-camera. I mean, you hear the rifle shot that takes down Bambi’s Mom. But you don’t actually see that Mama Deer get clipped.

Now for the scariest part of that movie that you actually see on-camera … Hands down, that has to be the forest fire sequence in “Bambi.” As the grown-up Bambi & his bride, Faline, desperately race through those woods, trying to find a path to safety as literally everything around them is ablaze … That sequence is literally nightmare fuel.

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Mind you, the artists at Walt Disney Animation Studios had lots of inspiration for the forest fire sequence in “Bambi.” You see, in a typical year, the United States experiences – due to either natural phenomenon like lightning strikes or human carelessness – 100 forest fires. Whereas in 1940 (i.e., the year that Disney Studios began working in earnest of a movie version of Felix Salten’s best-selling movie), America found itself battling a record 360 forest fires.

Which greatly concerned the U.S. Forest Service. But not for the reason you might think.

Protecting the Forest for World War II

I mean, yes. Sure. Officials over in the Agricultural Department (That’s the arm of the U.S. government that manages the Forest Service) were obviously concerned about the impact that this record number of forest fires in 1940 had had on citizens. Not to mention all of the wildlife habitat that was now lost.

But to be honest, what really concerned government officials was those hundreds of thousands of acres of raw timber that had been consumed by these blazes. You see, by 1940, the world was on the cusp of the next world war. A conflict that the U.S. would inevitably  be pulled into. And all that now-lost timber? It could have been used to fuel the U.S. war machine.

So with this in mind (and U.S. government officials now seeing an urgent need to preserve & protect this precious resource) … Which is why – in 1942 (just a few months after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor) – the U.S. Forest Service rolls out its first-ever forest fire prevention program.

Which – given that this was the early days of World War II – the slogan that the U.S. Forest Service initially chose for its forest fire prevention program is very in that era’s we’re-all-in-this-together / so-let’s-do-what-we-can-to-help-America’s war-effort esthetic – made a direct appeal to all those folks who were taking part in scrap metal drives: “Forest Defense is National Defense.”

Source: Northwestern

And the poster that the U.S. Forest Service had created to support this campaign? … Well, it was well-meaning as well.  It was done in the WPA style and showed men out in the forest, wielding shovels to ditch a ditch. They were trying to construct a fire break, which would then supposedly slow the forest fire that was directly behind them.

But the downside was … That “Forest Defense is National Defense” slogan – along with that poster which the U.S. Forest Service had created to support their new forest fire prevention program didn’t exactly capture America’s attention.

I mean, it was the War Years after all. A lot was going in the country at that time. But long story short: the U.S. Forest Service’s first attempt at launching a successful forest fire prevention program sank without a trace.

So what do you do in a situation like this? You regroup. You try something different.

Disney & Bambi to the Rescue

And within the U.S. government, the thinking now was “Well, what if we got a celebrity to serve as the spokesman for our new forest fire prevention program? Maybe that would then grab the public’s attention.”

The only problem was … Well, again, these are the War Years. And a lot of that era’s A-listers (people like Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, even Mel Brooks) had already enlisted. So there weren’t really a lot of big-name celebrities to choose from.

But then some enterprising official at the U.S. Forest Service came up with an interesting idea. He supposedly said “Hey, have you seen that new Disney movie? You know, the one with the deer? That movie has a forest fire in it. Maybe we should go talk with Walt Disney? Maybe he has some ideas about how we can better capture the public’s attention when it comes to our new forest fire prevention program?”

And it turns Walt did have an idea. Which was to use this government initiative as a way to cross-promote Disney Studio’s latest full-length animated feature, “Bambi.” Which been first released to theaters in August of 1942.

So Walt had artists at Disney Studio work up a poster that featured the grown-up versions of Bambi the Deer, Thumper the Rabbit & Flower the Skunk. As this trio stood in some tall grasses, they looked imploring out at whoever was standing in front of this poster. Above them was a piece of text that read “Please Mister, Don’t Be Careless.” And below these three cartoon characters was an additional line that read “Prevent Forest Fires. Greater Danger Than Ever!”

Source: USDA

According to folks I’ve spoken with at Disney’s Corporate Archives, this “Bambi” -based promotional campaign for the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention campaign was a huge success. So much so that – as 1943 drew to a close – this division of the Department of Agriculture reportedly reached out to Walt to see if he’d be willing to let the U.S. Forest Service continue to use these cartoon characters to help raise the public’s awareness of fire safety.

Walt – for reasons known only to Mr. Disney – declined. Some have suggested that — because “Bambi” had actually lost money during its initial theatrical release in North America – that Walt was now looking to put that project behind him. And if there were posters plastered all over the place that then used the “Bambi” characters that then promoted the U.S.’s forest fire prevention efforts … Well, it would then be far harder for Mr. Disney to put this particular animated feature in the rear view mirror.

Introducing Smokey Bear

Long story short: Walt said “No” when it came to reusing the “Bambi” characters to promote the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention program. But given how successful the previous cartoon-based promotional campaign had been … Well, some enterprising employee at the Department of Agriculture reportedly said “Why don’t we come up with a cartoon character of our own?”

So – for the Summer of 1944 – the U.S. Forest Service (with the help of the Ad Council and the National Association of State Foresters) came up with a character to help promote the prevention of forest fires. And his name is Smokey Bear.

Now a lot of thought had gone into Smokey’s creation. Right from the get-go, it was decided that he would be an American black bear (NOT a brown bear or a grizzly). To make this character seem approachable, Smokey was outfitted with a ranger’s hat. He also wore a pair of blue jeans & carried a bucket.

As for his debut poster, Smokey was depicted as pouring water over a still-smoldering campfire. And below this cartoon character was printed Smokey’s initial catchphrase. Which was “Care will prevent 9 out of 10 forest fires!”

Source: NPR

Which makes me think that this slogan was written by the very advertising executive who wrote “Four out of five dentists recommend sugarless gum for their patients who chew gum.”

Anyway … By the Summer of 1947, Smokey got a brand-new slogan. The one that he uses even today. Which is “Only YOU can prevent forest fires.”

The Real Smokey Bear

Now where this gets interesting is – in the Summer of 1950 – there was a terrible forest fire up in the Capitan Mountains of New Mexico. And over the course of this blaze, a bear cub climbed high up into a tree to try & escape those flames.

Firefighters were finally able to rescue that cub. But he was so badly injured in that fire that he was shipped off to the National Zoo in Washington, D.C. and nursed back to health. And since this bear really couldn’t be released back in the wild at this point, he was then put on exhibit.

And what does this bear’s keepers decide to call him? You guessed it: Smokey.

Source: USDA

And due to all the news coverage that this orphaned bear got, he eventually became the living symbol of the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention program. Which then meant that this particular Smokey Bear got hit with a ton of fan mail. So much so that the National Zoo in Washington D.C. wound up with its own Zip Code.

“Smokey the Bear” Hit Song

And on the heels of a really-for-real Smokey Bear taking up residence in our nation’s capital, Steve Nelson & Jack Rollins decide to write a song that shined a spotlight on this fire-fightin’ bruin. Here’s the opening stanza:

With a ranger’s hat and shovel and a pair of dungarees,
You will find him in the forest always sniffin’ at the breeze,
People stop and pay attention when he tells them to beware
Because everybody knows that he’s the fire-preventin’ bear

Believe or not, even with lyrics like these, “Smokey the Bear” briefly topped the Country charts in the Summer of 1950. Thanks to a version of this song that was recorded by Gene Autry, the Singing Cowboy.

By the way, it was this song that started all of the confusion in regards to Smokey Bear’s now. You see, Nelson & Rollins – because they need the lyrics of their song to scan properly – opted to call this fire-fightin’-bruin Smokey THE Bear. Rather than Smokey Bear. Which has been this cartoon character’s official name since the U.S. Forest Service first introduced him back in 1944.

“The Ballad of Smokey the Bear”

Further complicating this issue was “The Ballad of Smokey the Bear,” which was a stop-motion animated special that debuted on NBC in late November of 1966. Produced by Rankin-Bass as a follow-up to their hugely popular “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” (which premiered on the Peacock Network in December of 1964) … This hour-long TV show also put a “THE” in the middle of Smokey Bear’s name because the folks at Rankin-Bass thought his name sounded better that way.

And speaking of animation … Disney’s “Bambi” made a brief return to the promotional campaign for the U.S. Forest Service’s forest fire prevention program in the late 1980s. This was because the Company’s home entertainment division had decided to release this full-length animated feature on VHS.

What’s kind of interesting, though, is the language used on the “Bambi” poster is a wee different than the language that’s used on Smokey’s poster. It reads “Protect Our Forest Friends. Only You Can Prevent Wildfires.” NOT “Forest Fires.”

Anyway, that’s how Disney’s “Bambi” led to the creation of Smokey Bear. Thanks for bearin’ with me as I clawed my way through this grizzly tale.

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