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Monday Mouse Watch: “It’s like sending a boy scout into the court of the Borgias”

John Lasseter clearly must be a theater fan.


After all, week before last, Lasseter was down at Disney World checking out DAK‘s “Finding Nemo –The Musical.” Then this past Thursday, John was out in NYC attending the opening night of Disney Theatrical‘s newest production, “Mary Poppins.”


Which is kind of ironic. Given that — when it comes to the on-going drama at Walt Disney Imagineering — Lasseter has been kind of a no-show lately.


Alright, to be fair, since he came on board at the Mouse House of this year, John & Ed Catmull have been concentrating on turning Disney Feature Animation around. Which only makes sense. Given that WDFA literally is the creative engine that drives the Walt Disney Company.


After all, unless Feature Animation can get back to producing popular motion pictures that feature memorable characters … Well, that makes life extremely difficult for Disney’s Consumer Products division (Which constantly needs new characters to feed to its network of licensees) as well as Parks & Resorts (Which regularly needs new films with memorable characters, stories and settings to serve as inspiration for rides, shows & attractions for the parks).


This explains why John has spent most of the past 10 months focusing on reviving WDFA. But those guys over Glendale — particularly the ones who grown tired of dealing with Walt Disney Imagineering’s poisonous corporate culture & constant in-fighting … Well, they’re wondering when WDI’s new principal creative advisor is actually going to start advising them.


As an e-mail that I recently received from an Imagineering insider so succintly put it:



Lack of movement by Lasseter to eliminate the existing politically driven management at WDI is bringing morale back down to the pre-Pixar announcement levels.


Existing management has actually become more emboldened in their former attitudes. (Imagine what the Bush administration would be like if the Democrats hadn’t taken over Congress).


The current focus on ‘placemaking’ (paint, plants & change of theme) just reinforces the fact that no true visionary is involved in recent projects. Visionary creativity being replaced with pabulum.


Again, to fair, in the months immediately following the Pixar acquisition, Lasseter was heavily involved in Disney’s promotional efforts to support the international release of “Cars.” Then there was that long family vacation that John had promised to take with Nancy and the boys.


But all that was over months ago.


Meanwhile, many veteran Imagineers are wondering when Lasseter is finally going to call WDI management on its increasingly manipulative behavior. Take — for example — that “Cars” themed E-Ticket that’s been proposed for DCA‘s San Francisco district. John was supposedly thrilled when the guys at WDI initially pitched this thrill ride to him. Which will reportedly make use of the very same ride system that Epcot‘s “GM Test Track” uses.


But no sooner had John left on his family vacation when these WDI managers not only cut the budget for this proposed California Adventure addition, but they then pushed back the start of construction of this attraction by several years.


“Why would these Imagineering managers do that?,” you ask. Well, quickly stepping around the whole “Cars”-didn’t-do-nearly-as-well-as-Disney-execs-had-hoped-it-would issue (The mere mention of which tends to make certain JHM readers froth at the mouth) … To be honestly, this is pretty much business as usual at WDI.


What do I mean by that? Well, if you look cold-bloodedly at the history of this division of the Walt Disney Company, you’ll see that there have literally been dozens of ambitious projects (EX: The “Dick Tracy Crimestoppers” thrill ride, The “Island at the Top of the World” E-Ticket, the “Babes in Toyland” dark ride) that were tabled when senior management suddenly lost enthusiasm for the productions that these projects were supposed to be based on.


And then there’s that “Journey into Imagination with Figment” redo that Lasseter had supposedly been personally championing. Preliminary plans for this renovation had reportedly been drawn up. A budget was dummied out. There was even talk of fast-tracking this particular project. Just so that the renovation of this Future World favorite would then send the appropriate message to the Disney fan community that WDI was now under new management.


But then — almost as soon as talk had started about this “Imagination” redo — this project fell off of Imagineering’s fast track. Allegedly because WDI management had talked John out of pushing for this particular redo.


“And why they’d do that?,” you query. To be honest, redoing “Journey into Imagination with Figment” just didn’t make fiscal sense. This Future World pavilion had already gone under the knife twice in the past seven years, with the Walt Disney Company spending tens of millions of dollars in an effort to freshen up & improve “Imagination.” Meanwhile, there are other parts of Epcot that hadn’t received any TLC in more than a decade.


So spending more money now on yet another attempt to improve this particular Future World attraction (at least in the eyes of WDI’s current management team) just seemed wasteful. Or so these managers supposedly told Lasseter.


And let’s not forget about the hidden agenda that’s now being serviced by that proposed redo of Disneyland‘s Tom Sawyer Island. How many of you recall that somewhat infamous trip that John Lasseter and his son made to that Frontierland attraction back in January 2002? These two were accompanied to TSI by then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner. Who was reportedly incredibly embarassed by the decrepit condition that many of the attractions on this island had been allowed to fall into.


Given that Lasseter supposedly has very fond memories of what Tom Sawyer Island was like back in its heyday … Well, John’s own affection for this attraction is allegedly one of the main justifications that WDI execs are now using for fast-tracking this particular project. These guys have reportedly been telling Mouse House managers that ” … John will be very pleased if we can turn the island back into one of Disneyland’s showpieces.”


Oh, by the way … For those of you who are concerned about how a Pirate-themed island will actually fit into the Frontierland setting … The revised plans for this project now allegedly calls for an overlay that actually straddles both of these worlds. So that Tom Sawyer Island would now become the home of river pirates similar to the ones that Davy Crockett & Mike Fink did battle with in the studio’s 1956 film, “Davy Crockett & the River Pirates.”


To further ease your concerns about this particular redo … Word has begun leaking out Jerry Bruckheimer’s production office that among the story ideas that Ted Elliot & Terry Rossio are considering for “Pirates of the Caribbean IV” is that Capt. Jack Sparrow and friends will make a trip upriver to New Orleans. Supposedly at voodoo queen Tia Dalma’s request. So — if production of that “Pirates” sequel does go forward in 2009 or 2010 — having a river pirates-themed version of Tom Sawyer Island might then actually make some sense.


Anyway … Getting to the main thrust of today’s story … Which is that many Imagineering veterans are wondering when John Lasseter is going to start taking a more hands-on approach toward his dealings with WDI. Or — at the very least — stop listening to those senior Imagineering executives who keep persuading Lasseter to abandon particular projects for the theme parks or (worse than that) convincing him that certain projects that service their own agendas are actually based on John’s own suggestions.


What’s particularly worrisome to some Imagineering veterans is that all that talk that used to be out there about how significant management changes were allegedly in the works for WDI … That’s all stopped now.


In fact, these days, it’s looking far more likely that the Disney Parks & Resorts side of the business will see big changes long before any senior execs who are currently in power at Walt Disney Imagineering will ever be shown the door. Which — as that e-mail that I excerpted toward the top of today’s article clearly demonstrates — just depresses the hell out of certain folks at WDI.


Perhaps it’s the words of one veteran Imagineer that I spoke with late last week that best sums up the current situation. As we talked on the phone, he said:



“You wanna know what the real problem here is? John’s a genuinely nice guy. So his first instinct is to trust people and take them at their word. Which just doesn’t work in a snakepit like WDI. It’s like sending a boy scout into the court of the Borgias.


These executives have been lying to Lasseter & manipulating him from Day One. He just hasn’t realized it yet.”


Well, after today’s article, perhaps that will change.


Your thoughts?

Jim Hill

Jim Hill is an entertainment writer who has specialized in covering The Walt Disney Company for nearly 40 years now. Over that time, he has interviewed hundreds of animators, actors, and Imagineers -- many of whom have shared behind-the-scenes stories with Mr. Hill about how the Mouse House really works. In addition to the 4000+ articles Jim has written for the Web, he also co-hosts a trio of popular podcasts: “Disney Dish with Len Testa,” “Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor” and “Marvel US Disney with Aaron Adams.” Mr. Hill makes his home in Southern New Hampshire with his lovely wife Nancy and two obnoxious cats, Ginger & Betty.

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