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Why For?

This time around, it isn’t Jim who’s providing the in-depth answers to your Disney related questions. Saddle up as JHM readers themselves pony up all of the extra cool inside info.

Published

22 years ago

June 5, 2003

Jim Hill

Hey, gang!

Jim Hill here. Nancy and I are just days away from wrapping up our latest trip to Southern California. And what a jam-packed jaunt it’s been. In 12 short days, we’ve traveled from Anaheim to San Diego to Hollywood to Emeryville to San Francisco to Fresno to Sequoia National Park — collecting all sorts of new stories for the site along the way. (Not to mention dealing with my darling daughter’s two missing front teeth. Which Alice accidentally knocked after she fell out of a tree she was climbing. But that’s a story for another time … Anyway …)

What with all the traveling and the dealing with dentists, I haven’t had much time to write any new columns and/or answer much e-mail. Which is why I’m so grateful for JHM readers like Anton, Brad H., Chuck J., Michael C., and Terry Tiger. Who saved me the trouble of having to write a brand new “Why For” this week by sending along these incredibly detailed responses to my previous questions.

You may recall — in last week’s “Why For” — I asked if any of your JHM readers had additional info about the Rhine River ride that the Imagineers had planned to open as part of the German pavilion at World Showcase. And several folks actually came forward with some interesting stories about this aborted Epcot Center attraction.

First, Michael C. confirmed that the show building for the Rhine River Ride had actually been built. Then he fills in a few holes about what was really done with this show space after the attraction was cancelled:

Hey Jim, Just so you know, the building for the cruise was built. There’s a huge show building behind the right arch in the back of the Germany pavilion. It was built and ready to go. Instead of a ride, though, it contains EPCOT’s wing of Central Shops (or at least it did as recently as the late nineties). They cranked out signage as needed within the park or any other of the million things those guys do. For the record, the ride building was also finished for Meet The World in the Japan Pavilion. It too was complete and ready to go inside the fortress at the rear of the pavilion. As far as I know, it’s only used for storage these days.

Hope this proves useful,

Michael C.

Next, Anton confirms that this German show space was used for something other than Epcot attractions as he describes his own somewhat illegal behind-the-scenes adventure:

Hello! Love the site. You asked in the last “Why For” about the show building for the Rhine River tour in Germany at Epcot. I’ve been in that building. When I was a bit younger I would often poke around where I wasn’t supposed to at WDW, simply because I was fascinated by how it all worked. One day a friend and I noticed that a set of double doors in the adjoining Italy pavilion was open, and we walked through to “backstage.”

Anyway, we went through a side door in the Germany pavilion and found ourselves in this large warehouse-like space. At the time (this would be around 1988 or so) it appeared to be used as a repair workshop, with sawhorses and workbenches and so on, but the place was mostly unused space. A staircase led up to a catwalk, and when I slipped past a curtain, I found myself above the diners in the Oktoberfest, on a themed walkway that from the diners’ point of view probably appeared to merge into the town scenery. I’m guessing it was used for entrances of costumed singers, but I don’t know since I’ve never eaten there.

This doesn’t answer the question of how one would get from the “show” part of the pavilion to the ride area, though. I can’t figure out where the entrance would be, either. All of this discussion makes me wonder whether Disney will ever be able to put attractions, or at least quality exhibits, in each of the countries at Epcot. It seems like they’ve given up on that, but I don’t know why. It seems it would be a lot easier to find someone to sponsor a ride that a group to sponsor an entire new country like Spain (or Denmark, which they announced years ago only to can–I’m sure there’s a story there). Hope this helps. Keep up the good work!

Then, Brad H. shares his own memories of this Epcot Center, including the time when the Rhine River show building was apparently used as a hangar for all of the “Skyladascope” vehicles.

Hey, Jim, love the site.

I worked at WDW from 1985 to 1995 and spent some of that time at EPCOT so I’ll tell you what I know from up to 1995.

There is indeed a huge empty shell of a show building not only behind Germany, but Japan as well. There was originally going to be attractions in both of these buildings but obviously we have yet to see them. If I remember correctly, there are indeed rehearsal rooms for entertainment that take up some of the space in the Germany show building. As far as I can remember, during the time I was there, both of the buildings were used by entertainment for storage and pre-staging EPCOT shows.

Such as, when I worked on an EPCOT daytime show in the late 80’s called Skylydascope (can’t remember the correct spelling). This was an odd show with Dreamfinder battling hovercraft dragons on the showcase lagoon from his dream machine (which was a blimp) and calling upon colored planes and gliders to “paint the sky with rainbows” which was actually colored smoke and daytime fireworks…Anyway, I digress…during the period that EPCOT had that show, the buildings were where they stored, maintained, and even inflated the blimps used in the show. At that time, the buildings were basically like big airplane hangers. Don’t know what they are like now.

Brad H.

Next, Chuck J. confirms that this empty show building was indeed used as rehearsal space for high school bands as well as WDW cast members. Chuck writes in to say:

Reading your site.. it’s great! The large space behind Germany is in fact rehearsal and storage space. I have rehearsed there in the past (yes, I’m a CM). The space behind Japan (Meet the World- never built) is a !!!HUGE!!!! space used currently as a warehouse.

Chuck J

And — finally — TerryTiger comes forward with a detailed response to another one of last week’s “Why For.” As in: What’s the deal with the Astro Orbiter at Disneyland? TT says:

First off, I have to ask where you came up with the name “Star Jets”? I have never heard that name before. Is that what they are called in Orlando? In Anaheim, the first version of that attraction opened in 1956 as the “Astro-Jets”. When the 2nd generation opened with the “new” Tomorrowland of 1967 and was placed high in the air above the PeopleMover, they were called the “Rocket Jets” (probably because of the NASA-type elevators that took you up to the rocket platform). In 1998, we got the “Astro-Orbiter” and “Observatron”. The only thing in Tomorrowland with “Star” in it’s name is the Star Trader shop.

Anyway… here’s the story I have been told as to why the spinner ride was moved to the entrance of Tomorrowland. And knowing about all the cutbacks and budget issues associated with the Tomorrowland redesign, I feel this story is probably a lot closer to the truth than the far-fetched “Imagineer with a fear of heights” tale.

The newly constructed Astro-Orbiter turned out to be much heavier than its 30-year-old predecessor. When they did the structural analysis to see if the weight difference would be a problem, they found the mid-1960’s vintage deck above “Rocket Rods” could not support this new ride . The Rocket Rods retrofit of the PeopleMover platform was already well under way and it was not possible (or financially feasible) to rebuild the entire structure. Consequently, they had to find another location for the Astro-Orbiter. Well, where better to move this Tomorrowland icon than right to the entrance of Tomorrowland. “What a great “weenie” it would make there!” or so the thinking went. AND as a bonus, moving it to the ground also simplified the loading/unloading and solved many of the difficulties associated with the elevators.

Since the demolition/removal of the old spinner was part of the Astro-Orbiter project and the change of location required a complete new site prep, theming, queue, etc., with an ever-increasing budget all available funds for the removal of the old ride were cut and it actually turned out to be cheaper to just leave the old spinner up there and redress it as a kinetic sculpture. After all, everyone was used to seeing motion up there. The Rocket Jets ride WAS the icon of Tomorrowland. Without the Astro-Orbiter or something up there, the Rocket Rods structure would look somehow incomplete and flat. People would notice something was missing. Hence the “Observatron” was born. And quite cheaply, I might add. Doesn’t it show? 😉

TerryTiger

See what happens when you ask for help with your questions? Nice people come forward with all sorts of exciting new info that you never knew about.

Anywho … that’s it for this week’s abbreviated version of “Why For.” Thanks again to Anton, Brad H., Chuck J., Michael C., and Terry Tiger for doing all the heavy lifting for me. I promise — once I get to New Hampshire next week — the steady flow on new JHM articles and columns will resume.

But — for now — it’s Bedtime for Bonzo. So I guess I’ll say my good-byes and talk to you again soon, okay?

‘Til then, you folks have a great weekend,
jrh

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Seward Johnson bronzes add a surreal, artistic touch to NYC’s Garment District

Published

10 years ago

June 23, 2015

Jim Hill

Greetings from NYC. Nancy and I drove down from New
Hampshire yesterday because we'll be checking out
Disney Consumer Products' annual Holiday Showcase later today.

Anyway … After checking into our hotel (i.e., The Paul.
Which is located down in NYC's NoMad district), we decided to grab some dinner.
Which is how we wound up at the Melt Shop.

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Which is this restaurant that only sells grilled cheese sandwiches.
This comfort food was delicious, but kind of on the heavy side.

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Which is why — given that it was a beautiful summer night
— we'd then try and walk off our meals. We started our stroll down by the Empire
State Building
…

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… and eventually wound up just below Times
Square (right behind where the Waterford Crystal Times Square New
Year's Eve Ball is kept).

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But you know what we discovered en route? Right in the heart
of Manhattan's Garment District
along Broadway between 36th and 41st? This incredibly cool series of life-like
and life-sized sculptures that Seward
Johnson has created.

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And — yes — that is Abraham Lincoln (who seems to have
slipped out of WDW's Hall of Presidents when no one was looking and is now
leading tourists around Times Square). These 18 painted
bronze pieces (which were just installed late this past Sunday night / early
Monday morning) range from the surreal to the all-too-real.

Photo by Jim Hill

Some of these pieces look like typical New Yorkers. Like the
business woman planning out her day …

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… the postman delivering the mail …

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… the hot dog vendor working at his cart …

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… the street musician playing for tourists …

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Not to mention the tourists themselves.

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But right alongside the bronze businessmen …

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… and the tired grandmother hauling her groceries home …

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… there were also statues representing people who were
from out-of-town …

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… or — for that matter — out-of-time.

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These were the Seward Johnson pieces that genuinely beguiled. Famous impressionist paintings brought to life in three dimensions.

Note the out-of-period water bottle that some tourist left
behind. Photo by Jim Hill

Some of them so lifelike that you actually had to pause for
a moment (especially as day gave way to night in the city) and say to yourself
"Is that one of the bronzes? Or just someone pretending to be one of these
bronzes?"

Mind you, for those of you who aren't big fans of the
impressionists …

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… there's also an array of American icons. Among them
Marilyn Monroe …

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… and that farmer couple from Grant Wood's "American
Gothic."

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But for those of you who know your NYC history, it's hard to
beat that piece which recreates Alfred Eisenstaedt's famous photograph of V-J Day in Times Square.

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By the way, a 25-foot-tall version of this particular Seward
Johnson piece ( which — FYI — is entitled "Embracing Peace") will actually
be placed in Times Square for a few days on or around August 14th to commemorate the 70th
anniversary of Victory Over Japan Day (V-J Day).

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By the way, if you'd like to check these Seward Johnson bronzes in
person (which — it should be noted — are part of the part of the Garment
District Alliance's new public art offering) — you'd best schedule a trip to
the City sometime over the next three months. For these pieces will only be on
display now through September 15th.

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Wondering what you should “Boldly Go” see at the movies next year? The 2015 Licensing Expo offers you some clues

Published

10 years ago

June 10, 2015

Jim Hill

Greeting from the 2015 Licensing Expo, which is being held
at the Mandalay Bay
Convention Center in Las
Vegas.

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I have to admit that I enjoy covering the Licensing Expo.
Mostly becomes it allows bloggers & entertainment writers like myself to
get a peek over the horizon. Scope out some of the major motion pictures &
TV shows that today's vertically integrated entertainment conglomerates
(Remember when these companies used to be called movie studios?) will be
sending our way over the next two years or so.

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Take — for example — all of "The Secret Life of
Pets" banners that greeted Expo attendees as they made their way to the
show floor today. I actually got to see some footage from this new Illumination
Entertainment production (which will hit theaters on July 8, 2016) the last time I was in Vegas. Which
was for CinemaCon back in April. And the five or so minutes of film that I viewed
suggested that "The Secret Life of Pets" will be a really funny
animated feature.

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Mind you, Universal Pictures wanted to make sure that Expo
attendees remembered that there was another Illumination Entertainment production
coming-to-a-theater-near-them before "The Secret Life of Pets" (And
that's "Minions," the "Despicable Me" prequel. Which
premieres at the Annecy International Animated Film Festival next week but
won't be screened stateside 'til July 10th of this year). Which is why they had
three minions who were made entirely out of LEGOS loitering out in the lobby.

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And Warner Bros. — because they wanted "Batman v
Superman: Dawn of Justice" to start trending on Twitter today — brought
the Batmobile to Las Vegas.

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Not to mention full-sized macquettes of Batman, Superman and
Wonder Woman. Just so conventioneers could then see what these DC superheroes
would actually look like in this eagerly anticipated, March 25, 2016 release.

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That's the thing that can sometimes be a wee bit frustrating
about the Licensing Expo. It's all about delayed gratification. You'll come
around a corner and see this 100 foot-long ad for "The Peanuts Movie"
and think "Hey, that looks great. I want to see that Blue Sky Studios production
right now." It's only then that you notice the fine print and realize that
"The Peanuts Movie" doesn't actually open in theaters 'til November
6th of this year.

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And fan of Blue Sky's "Ice Age" film franchise are in for an even
longer wait. Given that the latest installment in that top grossing series
doesn't arrive in theaters 'til July
15, 2016.

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Of course, if you're one of those people who needs immediate
gratification when it comes to your entertainment, there was stuff like that to
be found at this year's Licensing Expo. Take — for example — how the WWE
booth was actually shaped like a wrestling ring. Which — I'm guessing — meant
that if the executives of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. didn't like
the offer that you were making, they were then allowed to toss you out over the
top rope, Royal Rumble-style.

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I also have to admit that — as a longtime Star Trek fan —
it was cool to see the enormous Starship Enterprise that hung in place over the
CBS booth. Not to mention getting a glimpse of the official Star Trek 50th
Anniversary logo.

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I was also pleased to see lots of activity in The Jim Henson
Company booth. Which suggests that JHC has actually finally carved out a
post-Muppets identity for itself.

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Likewise for all of us who were getting a little concerned
about DreamWorks Animation (what with all the layoffs & write-downs &
projects that were put into turnaround or outright cancelled last year), it was
nice to see that booth bustling.

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Every so often, you'd come across some people who were
promoting a movie that you weren't entirely sure that you actually wanted to
see (EX: "Angry Birds," which Sony Pictures Entertainment / Columbia
Pictures will be releasing to theaters on May 20, 2016). But then you remembered that Clay Kaytis —
who's this hugely talented former Walt Disney Animation Studios animator — is
riding herd on "Angry Birds" with Fergal Reilly. And you'd think
"Well, if Clay's working on 'Angry Birds,' I'm sure this animated feature
will turn out fine."

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Mind you, there were reminders at this year's Licensing Expo
of great animated features that we're never going to get to see now. I still
can't believe — especially after that brilliant proof-of-concept footage
popped up online last year — that Sony execs decided not to go forward
with production of Genndy Tartakovsky's
"Popeye" movie. But that's the
cruel thing about the entertainment business, folks. It will sometime break
your heart.

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And make no mistake about this. The Licensing Expo is all
about business. That point was clearly driven home at this year's show when —
as you walked through the doors of the Mandalay
Bay Convention Center
— the first thing that you saw was the Hasbros Booth. Which was this gleaming,
sleek two story-tall affair full of people who were negotiating deals &
signing contracts for all of the would-be summer blockbusters that have already
announced release dates for 2019 & beyond.

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"But what about The Walt Disney Company?," you
ask. "Weren't they represented on the show floor at this year's Licensing
Expo?" Not really, not. I mean, sure. There were a few companies there hyping
Disney-related products. Take — for example — the Disney Wikkeez people.

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I'm assuming that some Disney Consumer Products exec is
hoping that Wikkeez will eventually become the new Tsum Tsum. But to be blunt,
these little hard plastic figures don't seem to have the same huggable charm
that those stackable plush do. But I've been wrong before. So let's see what
happens with Disney Wikkeez once they start showing up on the shelves of the
Company's North American retail partners.

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And speaking of Disney's retail partners … They were
meeting with Mouse House executives behind closed doors one floor down from the
official show floor for this year's Licensing Expo.

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And the theme for this year's invitation-only Disney shindig? "Timeless
Stories" involving the Disney, Pixar, Marvel & Lucasfilm brands that
would then appeal to "tomorrow's consumer."

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And just to sort of hammer home the idea that Disney is no
longer the Company which cornered the market when it comes to little girls
(i.e., its Disney Princess and Disney Fairies franchises), check out this
wall-sized Star Wars-related image that DCP put up just outside of one of its
many private meeting rooms. "See?," this carefully crafted photo
screams. "It isn't just little boys who want to wield the Force. Little
girls also want to grow up and be Lords of the Sith."

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One final, kind-of-ironic note: According to this banner,
Paramount Pictures will be releasing a movie called "Amusement Park"
to theaters sometime in 2017.

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Well, given all the "Blackfish" -related issues
that have been dogged SeaWorld Parks & Entertainment over the past two years, I'm
just hoping that they'll still be in the amusement park business come 2017.

Your thoughts?

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It takes more than three circles to craft a Classic version of Mickey Mouse

Published

10 years ago

June 9, 2015

Jim Hill

You know what Mickey Mouse looks like, right? Little guy,
big ears?

Truth be told, Disney's corporate symbol has a lot of
different looks. If Mickey's interacting with Guests at Disneyland
Park (especially this summer, when
the Happiest Place on Earth
is celebrating its 60th anniversary), he looks & dresses like this.

Or when he's appearing in one of those Emmy Award-winning shorts that Disney
Television Animation has produced (EX: "Bronco Busted," which debuts
on the Disney Channel tonight at 8 p.m. ET / PT), Mickey is drawn in a such a
way that he looks hip, cool, edgy & retro all at the same time.

Looking ahead to 2017 now, when Disney Junior rolls out "Mickey and the
Roadster Racers," this brand-new animated series will feature a sportier version
of Disney's corporate symbol. One that Mouse House managers hope will persuade
preschool boys to more fully embrace this now 86 year-old character.

That's what most people don't realize about the Mouse. The
Walt Disney Company deliberately tailors Mickey's look, even his style of
movement, depending on what sort of project / production he's appearing in.

Take — for example — Disney
California Adventure
Park's "World of Color:
Celebrate!" Because Disney's main mouse would be co-hosting this new
nighttime lagoon show with ace emcee Neil Patrick Harris, Eric Goldberg really had
to step up Mickey's game. Which is why this master Disney animator created
several minutes of all-new Mouse animation which then showed that Mickey was
just as skilled a showman as Neil was.

Better yet, let's take a look at what the folks at Avalanche Studios just went
through as they attempted to create a Classic version of Mickey & Minnie.
One that would then allow this popular pair to become part of Disney Infinity
3.0.

"I won't lie to you. We were under a lot of pressure to
get the look of this particular version of Mickey — he's called Red Pants
Mickey around here — just right," said Jeff Bunker, the VP of Art
Development at Avalanche Studios, during a recent phone interview. "When
we brought Sorcerer Mickey into Disney Infinity 1.0 back in January of 2014,
that one was relatively easy because … Well, everyone knows what Mickey Mouse
looked like when he appeared in 'Fantasia.' "

"But this time around, we were being asked to design
THE Mickey & Minnie," Bunker continued. "And given that these Classic
Disney characters have been around in various different forms for the better
part of the last century … Well, which look was the right look?"

Which is why Jeff and his team at Avalanche Studios began watching hours &
hours of Mickey Mouse shorts. As they tried to get a handle on which look would
work best for these characters in Disney Infinity 3.0.

"And we went all the way back to the very start of Mickey's career. We began
with 'Steamboat Willie' and then watched all of those black & white Mickey shorts
that Walt made back in the late 1920s & early 1930s. From there, we
transitioned to his Technicolor shorts. Which is when Mickey went from being
this pie-eyed, really feisty character to more of a well-behaved leading
man," Bunker recalled. "We then finished out our Mouse marathon by
watching all of those new Mickey shorts that Paul Rudish & his team have
been creating for Disney Television Animation. Those cartoons really recapture
a lot of the spirit and wild slapstick fun that Mickey's early, black &
white shorts had."

But given that the specific assignment that Avalanche Studios had been handed
was to create the most appealing looking, likeable version of Mickey Mouse
possible … In the end, Jeff and his team wound up borrowing bits & pieces
from a lot of different versions of the world's most famous mouse. So that
Classic Mickey would then look & move in a way that best fit the sort of
gameplay which people would soon be able to experience with Disney Infinity
3.0.

"That — in a lot of ways — was actually the toughest
part of the Classic Mickey design project. You have to remember that one of the
key creative conceits of Disney Infinity
is that all the characters which appear in this game are toys," Bunker
stated. "Okay. So they're beautifully detailed, highly stylized toy
versions of beloved Disney, Pixar, Marvel & Lucasfilm characters. But
they're still supposed to be toys. So our Classic versions of Mickey &
Minnie have the same sort of thickness & sturdiness to them that toys have.
So that they'll then be able to fit right in with all of the rest of the
characters that Avalanche Studios had previously designed for Disney Infinity."

And then there was the matter of coming up with just the
right pose for Classic Mickey & Minnie. Which — to hear Jeff tell the
story — involved input from a lot of Disney upper management.

"Everyone within the Company seemed to have an opinion
about how Mickey & Minnie should be posed. More to the point, if you Google
Mickey, you then discover that there are literally thousands of poses out there
for these two. Though — truth be told — a lot of those kind of play off the
way Mickey poses when he's being Disney's corporate symbol," Bunker said.
"But what I was most concerned about was that Mickey's pose had to work
with Minnie's pose. Because we were bringing the Classic versions of these
characters up into Disney Infinity 3.0 at the exact same time. And we wanted to
make sure — especially for those fans who like to put their Disney Infinity
figures on display — that Mickey's pose would then complement Minnie.

Which is why Jeff & the crew at Avalanche Studios
decided — when it came to Classic Mickey & Minnie's pose — that they
should go all the way back to the beginning. Which is why these two Disney icons
are sculpted in such a way that it almost seems as though you're witnessing the
very first time Mickey set eyes on Minnie.

"And what was really great about that was — as soon as
we began showing people within the Company this pose — everyone at Disney
quickly got on board with the idea. I mean, the Classic Mickey that we sculpted
for Disney Infinity 3.0 is clearly a very playful, spunky character. But at the
same time, he's obviously got eyes for Minnie," Bunker concluded. "So
in the end, we were able to come up with Classic versions of these characters
that will work well within the creative confines of Disney Infinity 3.0 but at
the same time please those Disney fans who just collect these figures because
they like the way the Disney Infinity characters look."

So now that this particular design project is over, does
Jeff regret that Mouse House upper management was so hands-on when it came to
making sure that the Classic versions of Mickey & Minnie were specifically
tailored to fit the look & style of gameplay found in Disney Infinity 3.0?

"To be blunt, we go through this every time we add a new character to the
game. The folks at Lucasfilm were just as hands-on when we were designing the
versions of Darth Vader and Yoda that will also soon be appearing in Disney
Infinity 3.0," Bunker laughed. "So in the end, if the character's
creators AND the fans are happy, then I'm happy."

This article was originally posted on the Huffington Post's Entertainment page on Tuesday, June 9, 2015