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“Do you like pain? Trying wearing a corset” : The not-so-elegant life of an extra on the set of “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest”

It takes a lot of very talented people in order to transform actors of today into lords & ladies of the 17th century. Lady F. walks you through the entire process she underwent while working on “Pirates II.” From her initial costume fitting to the on-set rehearsals all the way through the shooting of several scenes for the film. WARNING! Thar be some minor spoilers ahead!

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Following up on last Thursday’s story … Lady F. now shares some excerpts from the journal that she kept on the set of “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest.” Which detailed many of the interesting experiences that this enterprising extra had while working on this Gore Verbinski film:



First some frillies & finery …



11:30 a.m. I sign in to get my SAG voucher, measurement sheet, a plastic garment bag and 5 or 6 tags with a number, which I will drop off with each department I visit. A camera crew is passing through the hallway filming people as they sign in. “Pirates” costume designer Penny Rose (funny, earthy, with a touch of salt) is rustling through the hallways, and fabulous, luscious costumes are walking past me. A dark haired woman in peach satin, periwigged men in cream and gold lace. It’s amazing how 20th century faces are transformed by 18th century clothes.


They say there will be over 60 fittings today. A huge amount of work, as they average almost an hour. We wait on metal chairs in the hallway until our number is called. The soundtrack from the first movie is floating through the air. Everyone who has been fitted stands for a full length Polaroid in the hallway. They are tacked up all over the walls. Dock workers, farmers, pirates, merchants, wenches. Each one fascinating, unique and totally authentic to the period.



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We walk into a large warehouse size room, rows & rows of racks of clothing. 5 small changing tents on the right, which usually take two or three people at a time. As I enter the tent, Penny calls out, “Did I just see a redhead go in? I’ve got just the gown for you!” She did this for each individual who came to the fitting. When you watch the film, take note of how many people you see onscreen and remember that Ms. Rose dressed them all.


As we change with the assistance of 2 or 3 dressers, Penny keeps the pace up. “I’m getting bored. Station #2, where are you?” As each person emerges, she makes any adjustments to clothing, notes any alterations needed, and then assigns accessories: shoes, hats, and jewelry. I am dressed in:



  • A cotton chemise
  • White thigh-length cotton stockings (with garters to tie them on)
  • Red pumps with bows
  • A basket pannier (It makes your skirt stand out) with petticoat attached
  • An 18th century style corset.
  • A rust-colored silk skirt embroidered in green, blue, orange and gold thread with gold spangles
  • An over-skirt with bodice attached of the same material with ruching at the neckline
  • An open-work straw hat with lace
  • And a cameo necklace, brooch and earrings

One of the dressers tells me that all the costume houses in Europe were raided for 18th century finery to dress a cast of thousands (My dress and shoes have an Italian label). As I walk out, Ms. Rose cries:”You’re gorgeous! Here’s your backstory, you’re the Governor’s mistress!”


Penny adds that she hopes that they won’t wig me but use my own hair. Which they do, due to a wig shortage (Tortuga is also being dressed today). I am captured by Kodak and float out the door at 1:30 p.m.


Next, an early morning drive to the “Dead Man’s Chest” set …



6:00 a.m. The moon is still out as I drive along the coast of Palos Verdes and through the gate marked with a “whale tail”, the last vestiges of Marineland. I park in the lot and find my way to a former warehouse that is now being used as a giant dressing area/ holding tank for the extras.


I’m in the first group to get changed. Jessica, my dresser, laces my corset gradually so I’m not overcome with lacing shock. Sunscreen and a very faint make-up are applied. Everyone is so courteous and helpful despite the fact that they have at least 100 people to dress.


As I wait for a hair station to open, I try to think of a great name for my “mistress” alter ego. Celeste? Olivia? Charlotte? I settle on Lady Fanny Beaumont, slightly trampy with a little French for class. The redcoats or marines are having their hair done first, so that they then can get out and drill. Then the bluecoats (officers), and finally the wedding guests.


Michael, who used to work on Les Mis, whips my hair up into a formidable pompadour with ringlets. After one more line-up for Penny Rose (“Gorgeous, darling. Beautiful. Lovely.”), the first group ready heads down to the set. Ladies holding their skirts aloft so they won’t drag in the mud. The men on set are quite enamored of the corseted female form. And there are many offers to help the ladies as they adjust their – ahem – “attributes”.


I end up in the front row of the wedding guests, paired with Michael, a silver-wigged, green-eyed gentleman whose nose is a bit nipped by the cold. Behind me is Kyle (a producer/cinematographer himself) in a long brown periwig. A shoe-button eyed 10 year old and his sister, both adorable in blue, are placed in front of me. I immediately concoct a story in my head that Michael, my lordly husband, thinks that these children are his … But I know better. But who then is their real father? The Governor or that 6-foot-tall, dark-eyed, flirty naval officer in the Governor’s entourage?


We rehearse. And then props are added. At one point, I am holding a fan, hankie and a teacup … Wait … now no teacup … The guests in this particular scene are supposed to be too horrified to be imbibing.


And then comes the call for “First team!” Which means that director Gore Verbinski as well as Keira Knightley, Orlando Bloom and Jonathan Pryce will soon be arriving on the set.



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Once these four arrive, we finally begin shooting. A two shot, then a close-up. Then Jonathan Pryce was shot pushing aside various citizens of Port Royal in order to reach his mark. And among those that Pryce (in a completely gentlemanly sort of way) shoves aside is yours truly.


At 1:00 p.m. we break for lunch. And none too soon. For Sarah — a blue-eyed blonde — nearly faints and has to be cut out of her tightly laced corset.



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Given how many extras there are on hand for the shooting of this particulat scene, we eat in shifts. Which gives us time to sit in the sun and warm-up a bit. Recover from sitting out in the artificial rain all morning.


Giving the setting and the way we’re all dressed, it all seems rather surreal. Particularly when one of Lord Beckett’s marines begins whaling on his guitar, serving up an acoustic version of “I Shot the Sheriff.” Which seems vaguely appropriate, given the Caribbean setting.



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Speaking of serving … The spread that’s set up in the catering tent for the extras is a marvel. An ice galleon laden with oysters and shrimp stands in one corner. Carved hot roast beef, herbed chicken, a salad & hot pasta station plus a table loaded with pastries. This is wedding-quality food. Good wedding-quality food!


Unfortunately, given that I am still tightly laced into my costume, I am forced to behave. Which is why I have a sliver of beef, a tiny chicken leg and the smallest pastry I can find (Corsets are great diet aids).


As soon as we finish lunch, we all head back to the warehouse for quick make-up & costuming touch ups. Once that’s complete, we all troop back over to the set. As the sun gets lower and lower over the Pacific.


During a break, I meet Oroc, one of the liveried servants in this sequence. He is from Cameroon and has a beautiful accent. We both marvel that he, an actor from Africa, and I, an actress from Virginia should end up in this particular place at the same time.


And anytime a break occurs, cell phones are whipped out from costumes. The whole town of Port Royal making calls.


The last shot of the day has the camera out on the lawn pointing inland. Keira in the foreground, while her guests pity the poor girl from a distance …


And then we’re done. A fat moon rises as I walk through the darkened parking lot. As I climb into my car, I leave Old Port Royal behind and begin the long drive back to the 20th century.


Coming on Thursday! Lady F. completes her report from the set of “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest” with a few anecdotes about some of the big-name actors in the cast.

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Jim Hill is an entertainment writer who has specialized in covering The Walt Disney Company for nearly 40 years now. Over that time, he has interviewed hundreds of animators, actors, and Imagineers -- many of whom have shared behind-the-scenes stories with Mr. Hill about how the Mouse House really works. In addition to the 4000+ articles Jim has written for the Web, he also co-hosts a trio of popular podcasts: “Disney Dish with Len Testa,” “Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor” and “Marvel US Disney with Aaron Adams.” Mr. Hill makes his home in Southern New Hampshire with his lovely wife Nancy and two obnoxious cats, Ginger & Betty.

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Seward Johnson bronzes add a surreal, artistic touch to NYC’s Garment District

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Greetings from NYC. Nancy and I drove down from New
Hampshire yesterday because we'll be checking out
Disney Consumer Products' annual Holiday Showcase later today.

Anyway … After checking into our hotel (i.e., The Paul.
Which is located down in NYC's NoMad district), we decided to grab some dinner.
Which is how we wound up at the Melt Shop.


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Which is this restaurant that only sells grilled cheese sandwiches.
This comfort food was delicious, but kind of on the heavy side.


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Which is why — given that it was a beautiful summer night
— we'd then try and walk off our meals. We started our stroll down by the Empire
State Building
…


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… and eventually wound up just below Times
Square (right behind where the Waterford Crystal Times Square New
Year's Eve Ball is kept).


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But you know what we discovered en route? Right in the heart
of Manhattan's Garment District
along Broadway between 36th and 41st? This incredibly cool series of life-like
and life-sized sculptures that Seward
Johnson has created.


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And — yes — that is Abraham Lincoln (who seems to have
slipped out of WDW's Hall of Presidents when no one was looking and is now
leading tourists around Times Square). These 18 painted
bronze pieces (which were just installed late this past Sunday night / early
Monday morning) range from the surreal to the all-too-real.


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Some of these pieces look like typical New Yorkers. Like the
business woman planning out her day …


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… the postman delivering the mail …


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… the hot dog vendor working at his cart …


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… the street musician playing for tourists …


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Not to mention the tourists themselves.


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But right alongside the bronze businessmen …


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… and the tired grandmother hauling her groceries home …


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… there were also statues representing people who were
from out-of-town …


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… or — for that matter — out-of-time.


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These were the Seward Johnson pieces that genuinely beguiled. Famous impressionist paintings brought to life in three dimensions.


Note the out-of-period water bottle that some tourist left
behind. Photo by Jim Hill 

Some of them so lifelike that you actually had to pause for
a moment (especially as day gave way to night in the city) and say to yourself
"Is that one of the bronzes? Or just someone pretending to be one of these
bronzes?"

Mind you, for those of you who aren't big fans of the
impressionists …


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… there's also an array of American icons. Among them
Marilyn Monroe …


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… and that farmer couple from Grant Wood's "American
Gothic."


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But for those of you who know your NYC history, it's hard to
beat that piece which recreates Alfred Eisenstaedt's famous photograph of V-J Day in Times Square.


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By the way, a 25-foot-tall version of this particular Seward
Johnson piece ( which — FYI — is entitled "Embracing Peace") will actually
be placed in Times Square for a few days on or around  August 14th to commemorate the 70th
anniversary of Victory Over Japan Day (V-J Day).


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By the way, if you'd like to check these Seward Johnson bronzes in
person (which — it should be noted — are part of the part of the Garment
District Alliance's new public art offering) — you'd best schedule a trip to
the City sometime over the next three months. For these pieces will only be on
display now through September 15th. 

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Wondering what you should “Boldly Go” see at the movies next year? The 2015 Licensing Expo offers you some clues

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Greeting from the 2015 Licensing Expo, which is being held
at the Mandalay Bay
Convention Center in Las
Vegas.


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I have to admit that I enjoy covering the Licensing Expo.
Mostly becomes it allows bloggers & entertainment writers like myself to
get a peek over the horizon. Scope out some of the major motion pictures &
TV shows that today's vertically integrated entertainment conglomerates
(Remember when these companies used to be called movie studios?) will be
sending our way over the next two years or so.


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Take — for example — all of "The Secret Life of
Pets" banners that greeted Expo attendees as they made their way to the
show floor today. I actually got to see some footage from this new Illumination
Entertainment production (which will hit theaters on July 8, 2016) the last time I was in Vegas. Which
was for CinemaCon back in April. And the five or so minutes of film that I viewed
suggested that "The Secret Life of Pets" will be a really funny
animated feature.


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Mind you, Universal Pictures wanted to make sure that Expo
attendees remembered that there was another Illumination Entertainment production
coming-to-a-theater-near-them before "The Secret Life of Pets" (And
that's "Minions," the "Despicable Me" prequel. Which
premieres at the Annecy International Animated Film Festival next week but
won't be screened stateside 'til July 10th of this year). Which is why they had
three minions who were made entirely out of LEGOS loitering out in the lobby.


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And Warner Bros. — because they wanted "Batman v
Superman: Dawn of Justice" to start trending on Twitter today — brought
the Batmobile to Las Vegas.


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Not to mention full-sized macquettes of Batman, Superman and
Wonder Woman. Just so conventioneers could then see what these DC superheroes
would actually look like in this eagerly anticipated, March 25, 2016 release.


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That's the thing that can sometimes be a wee bit frustrating
about the Licensing Expo. It's all about delayed gratification. You'll come
around a corner and see this 100 foot-long ad for "The Peanuts Movie"
and think "Hey, that looks great. I want to see that Blue Sky Studios production
right now." It's only then that you notice the fine print and realize that
"The Peanuts Movie" doesn't actually open in theaters 'til November
6th of this year.


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And fan of Blue Sky's "Ice Age" film franchise are in for an even
longer wait. Given that the latest installment in that top grossing series
doesn't arrive in theaters 'til July
15, 2016.


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Of course, if you're one of those people who needs immediate
gratification when it comes to your entertainment, there was stuff like that to
be found at this year's Licensing Expo. Take — for example — how the WWE
booth was actually shaped like a wrestling ring. Which — I'm guessing — meant
that if the executives of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. didn't like
the offer that you were making, they were then allowed to toss you out over the
top rope, Royal Rumble-style.


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I also have to admit that — as a longtime Star Trek fan —
it was cool to see the enormous Starship Enterprise that hung in place over the
CBS booth. Not to mention getting a glimpse of the official Star Trek 50th
Anniversary logo.


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I was also pleased to see lots of activity in The Jim Henson
Company booth. Which suggests that JHC has actually finally carved out a
post-Muppets identity for itself.


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Likewise for all of us who were getting a little concerned
about DreamWorks Animation (what with all the layoffs & write-downs &
projects that were put into turnaround or outright cancelled last year), it was
nice to see that booth bustling.


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Every so often, you'd come across some people who were
promoting a movie that you weren't entirely sure that you actually wanted to
see (EX: "Angry Birds," which Sony Pictures Entertainment / Columbia
Pictures will be releasing to theaters on May 20, 2016). But then you remembered that Clay Kaytis —
who's this hugely talented former Walt Disney Animation Studios animator — is
riding herd on "Angry Birds" with Fergal Reilly. And you'd think
"Well, if Clay's working on 'Angry Birds,' I'm sure this animated feature
will turn out fine."


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Mind you, there were reminders at this year's Licensing Expo
of great animated features that we're never going to get to see now. I still
can't believe — especially after that brilliant proof-of-concept footage
popped up online last year — that Sony execs decided not to go forward
with  production of Genndy Tartakovsky's
"Popeye" movie.  But that's the
cruel thing about the entertainment business, folks. It will sometime break
your heart.


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And make no mistake about this. The Licensing Expo is all
about business. That point was clearly driven home at this year's show when —
as you walked through the doors of the Mandalay
Bay Convention Center
— the first thing that you saw was the Hasbros Booth. Which was this gleaming,
sleek two story-tall affair full of people who were negotiating deals &
signing contracts for all of the would-be summer blockbusters that have already
announced release dates for 2019 & beyond.


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"But what about The Walt Disney Company?," you
ask. "Weren't they represented on the show floor at this year's Licensing
Expo?" Not really, not. I mean, sure. There were a few companies there hyping
Disney-related products. Take — for example — the Disney Wikkeez people.


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I'm assuming that some Disney Consumer Products exec is
hoping that Wikkeez will eventually become the new Tsum Tsum. But to be blunt,
these little hard plastic figures don't seem to have the same huggable charm
that those stackable plush do. But I've been wrong before. So let's see what
happens with Disney Wikkeez once they start showing up on the shelves of the
Company's North American retail partners.


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And speaking of Disney's retail partners … They were
meeting with Mouse House executives behind closed doors one floor down from the
official show floor for this year's Licensing Expo.


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And the theme for this year's invitation-only Disney shindig? "Timeless
Stories" involving the Disney, Pixar, Marvel & Lucasfilm brands that
would then appeal to "tomorrow's consumer."


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And just to sort of hammer home the idea that Disney is no
longer the Company which cornered the market when it comes to little girls
(i.e., its Disney Princess and Disney Fairies franchises), check out this
wall-sized Star Wars-related image that DCP put up just outside of one of its
many private meeting rooms. "See?," this carefully crafted photo
screams. "It isn't just little boys who want to wield the Force. Little
girls also want to grow up and be Lords of the Sith."


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One final, kind-of-ironic note: According to this banner,
Paramount Pictures will be releasing a movie called "Amusement Park"
to theaters sometime in 2017.  


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Well, given all the "Blackfish" -related issues
that have been dogged SeaWorld Parks & Entertainment over the past two years, I'm
just hoping that they'll still be in the amusement park business come 2017.

Your thoughts?

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It takes more than three circles to craft a Classic version of Mickey Mouse

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You know what Mickey Mouse looks like, right? Little guy,
big ears?

Truth be told, Disney's corporate symbol has a lot of
different looks. If Mickey's interacting with Guests at Disneyland
Park (especially this summer, when
the Happiest Place on Earth
is celebrating its 60th anniversary), he looks & dresses like this.


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Or when he's appearing in one of those Emmy Award-winning shorts that Disney
Television Animation has produced (EX: "Bronco Busted," which debuts
on the Disney Channel tonight at 8 p.m. ET / PT), Mickey is drawn in a such a
way that he looks hip, cool, edgy & retro all at the same time.


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Looking ahead to 2017 now, when Disney Junior rolls out "Mickey and the
Roadster Racers," this brand-new animated series will feature a sportier version
of Disney's corporate symbol. One that Mouse House managers hope will persuade
preschool boys to more fully embrace this now 86 year-old character.


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That's what most people don't realize about the Mouse. The
Walt Disney Company deliberately tailors Mickey's look, even his style of
movement, depending on what sort of project / production he's appearing in.

Take — for example — Disney
California Adventure
Park's "World of Color:
Celebrate!" Because Disney's main mouse would be co-hosting this new
nighttime lagoon show with ace emcee Neil Patrick Harris, Eric Goldberg really had
to step up Mickey's game. Which is why this master Disney animator created
several minutes of all-new Mouse animation which then showed that Mickey was
just as skilled a showman as Neil was.


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Better yet, let's take a look at what the folks at Avalanche Studios just went
through as they attempted to create a Classic version of Mickey & Minnie.
One that would then allow this popular pair to become part of Disney Infinity
3.0.

"I won't lie to you. We were under a lot of pressure to
get the look of this particular version of Mickey — he's called Red Pants
Mickey around here — just right," said Jeff Bunker, the VP of Art
Development at Avalanche Studios, during a recent phone interview. "When
we brought Sorcerer Mickey into Disney Infinity 1.0 back in January of 2014,
that one was relatively easy because … Well, everyone knows what Mickey Mouse
looked like when he appeared in 'Fantasia.' "


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"But this time around, we were being asked to design
THE Mickey & Minnie," Bunker continued. "And given that these Classic
Disney characters have been around in various different forms for the better
part of the last century … Well, which look was the right look?"

Which is why Jeff and his team at Avalanche Studios began watching hours &
hours of Mickey Mouse shorts. As they tried to get a handle on which look would
work best for these characters in Disney Infinity 3.0.


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"And we went all the way back to the very start of Mickey's career. We began
with 'Steamboat Willie' and then watched all of those black & white Mickey shorts
that Walt made back in the late 1920s & early 1930s. From there, we
transitioned to his Technicolor shorts. Which is when Mickey went from being
this pie-eyed, really feisty character to more of a well-behaved leading
man," Bunker recalled. "We then finished out our Mouse marathon by
watching all of those new Mickey shorts that Paul Rudish & his team have
been creating for Disney Television Animation. Those cartoons really recapture
a lot of the spirit and wild slapstick fun that Mickey's early, black &
white shorts had."

But given that the specific assignment that Avalanche Studios had been handed
was to create the most appealing looking, likeable version of Mickey Mouse
possible … In the end, Jeff and his team wound up borrowing bits & pieces
from a lot of different versions of the world's most famous mouse. So that
Classic Mickey would then look & move in a way that best fit the sort of
gameplay which people would soon be able to experience with Disney Infinity
3.0.


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"That — in a lot of ways — was actually the toughest
part of the Classic Mickey design project. You have to remember that one of the
key creative conceits of  Disney Infinity
is that all the characters which appear in this game are toys," Bunker
stated. "Okay. So they're beautifully detailed, highly stylized toy
versions of beloved Disney, Pixar, Marvel & Lucasfilm characters. But
they're still supposed to be toys. So our Classic versions of Mickey &
Minnie have the same sort of thickness & sturdiness to them that toys have.
So that they'll then be able to fit right in with all of the rest of the
characters that Avalanche Studios had previously designed for Disney Infinity."

And then there was the matter of coming up with just the
right pose for Classic Mickey & Minnie. Which — to hear Jeff tell the
story — involved input from a lot of Disney upper management.


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"Everyone within the Company seemed to have an opinion
about how Mickey & Minnie should be posed. More to the point, if you Google
Mickey, you then discover that there are literally thousands of poses out there
for these two. Though — truth be told — a lot of those kind of play off the
way Mickey poses when he's being Disney's corporate symbol," Bunker said.
"But what I was most concerned about was that Mickey's pose had to work
with Minnie's pose. Because we were bringing the Classic versions of these
characters up into Disney Infinity 3.0 at the exact same time. And we wanted to
make sure — especially for those fans who like to put their Disney Infinity
figures on display — that Mickey's pose would then complement Minnie.

Which is why Jeff & the crew at Avalanche Studios
decided — when it came to Classic Mickey & Minnie's pose — that they
should go all the way back to the beginning. Which is why these two Disney icons
are sculpted in such a way that it almost seems as though you're witnessing the
very first time Mickey set eyes on Minnie.


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"And what was really great about that was — as soon as
we began showing people within the Company this pose — everyone at Disney
quickly got on board with the idea. I mean, the Classic Mickey that we sculpted
for Disney Infinity 3.0 is clearly a very playful, spunky character. But at the
same time, he's obviously got eyes for Minnie," Bunker concluded. "So
in the end, we were able to come up with Classic versions of these characters
that will work well within the creative confines of Disney Infinity 3.0 but at
the same time please those Disney fans who just collect these figures because
they like the way the Disney Infinity characters look."

So now that this particular design project is over, does
Jeff regret that Mouse House upper management was so hands-on when it came to
making sure that the Classic versions of Mickey & Minnie were specifically
tailored to fit the look & style of gameplay found in Disney Infinity 3.0?


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"To be blunt, we go through this every time we add a new character to the
game. The folks at Lucasfilm were just as hands-on when we were designing the
versions of Darth Vader and Yoda that will also soon be appearing in Disney
Infinity 3.0," Bunker laughed. "So in the end, if the character's
creators AND the fans are happy, then I'm happy."

This article was originally posted on the Huffington Post's Entertainment page on Tuesday, June 9, 2015

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