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Exploring WDW’s Grand Floridian Resort Hotel

Mouseketrips’ Scott Liljenquist wraps up his debut JHM series by taking us on a tour of Disney World’s flagship resort, the Grand Flo.

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Facts and Figures

The flagship resort of all Disney properties is the 867-room Grand Floridian Resort & Spa. Completed in 1988 as the fifth Disney resort, it ushered in Michael Eisner’s “Disney Decade” of building and expansions at Walt Disney World. Inspired by the Hotel de Coronado in San Diego, the Grand Floridian recalls the grand opulence of Victorian-era structures. Its brilliant white exterior, red clay tile roof and extensive Victorian architectural details recall the elegant hotels of the past. It has received AAA and Mobil 4-star ratings, and has been regularly voted one of the top 50 hotels in the world by readers of Conde Nast travel magazine.

As elegant as the Grand Floridian is, however, one has to wonder what would have happened had the Imagineers actually built the resort originally intended for the Grand Floridian’s current site. You see, in the original plans for Walt Disney World there were to have been five resort hotels in the Magic Kingdom area – the Contemporary (which, up until the early 80s, was always intended to be the flagship WDW resort), the Polynesian, the Venetian (to have been located on the shore of Seven Seas lagoon between the Contemporary and the site now occupied by the Ticket and Transportation Center), the Persian (to have been located north of the Polynesian and east of the Magic Kingdom on the northwestern shore of Bay Lake), and the Asian. It was the Asian resort that had been planned, designed, and was almost constructed on the land where the Grand Floridian now resides.

Visitors to the Magic Kingdom from opening day in 1971 to the early 1980s often wondered what that perfectly square, flat, barren, and obviously man-made piece of ground was for that jutted out into Seven Seas lagoon from the western shore. So close was the Asian resort to realization that this prime piece of land was actually cleared and prepared during the initial construction of the Magic Kingdom. In fact, in its annual report for 1972, Disney announced that preparations would begin immediately for construction of the Asian resort, with the resort to have been completed in 1974. Those of you with good memories will even recall that the road on the western side of the Walt Disney World property was originally called Asian way until being renamed Floridian Way upon completion of the Grand Floridian.

So what did we miss out on? Well, the Asian was to have been mainly Thai in theming. A ring of perimeter lodging buildings would have been built on the three sides of the property that adjoined Seven Seas lagoon. Similar in construction to the Polynesian’s longhouses, these accommodations would have featured Asian-style architecture and a majority of water-view rooms. In the central courtyard formed by these buildings would have been a large swimming pool and the focal point of the resort – a central tower building reaching more than 150 feet tall. This square-shaped tower building, with huge A-shaped windows on all four sides, would have housed the lobby, shops, and a signature restaurant with unparalleled views and nightly entertainment.

This all sounds great, you’re thinking to yourself, so what happened? Why aren’t we enjoying nights in Asia now as we do nights in Polynesia or the hotel of the future? Most theories point to an event in the early 70s which had nearly as devastating effect on the Disney company and the travel industry in general as did the events of September 11th. The Arab oil embargo, which created a nationwide energy crisis in 1973, severely curtailed the travel habits of most of WDW’s visitors. Serious declines in visitation led to frequent vacancies at the existing Contemporary and Polynesian resorts. Left without demand for its lodging, Disney had no choice but to put off construction of the Asian. It was not until Michael Eisner and Frank Wells took the reins of the Disney Company in 1984 and realized how underutilized the Florida property was that resort building once again became a priority. Unfortunately, the proposal for an elegant, luxurious, Victorian-style 5-star resort eventually won out over the long-mothballed plans for the Asian, and the site so long intended for a bit of Asia in the World now houses the Grand Floridian Resort and Spa.

All is not lost, however, as the Grand Floridian is a wonderful resort. As the premier destination at Walt Disney World, touches of elegance, luxury, and charm abound at the Grand Floridian. The resort consists of the main building containing the lobby, restaurants, lounges, and shops, 5 outer buildings containing various types of lodging, a large convention and conference center, the spa and health club building, and the wedding pavilion. Each structure is carefully detailed with gabled rooflines, dormers, towers, cupolas, and gingerbread features. The Grand Floridian features a world-class health club and spa, tennis courts, marina, unique shops, convention center, and its own wedding pavilion.

Lodging

Guest rooms at the Grand Floridian are located in one of six buildings on the 39-acre resort site. The main building is five stories tall, and the other buildings range in size from three to five stories. Each of the buildings offers its own benefits and drawbacks, with some buildings nearer some resort features and destinations than others. All buildings have a mix of garden view and water view rooms, with the water view rooms being the most popular and, of course, the most expensive.

Several different room types are available at the Grand Floridian. Standard rooms are about average size for Walt Disney World resorts. Dormer rooms are located on the top floors of the buildings, and feature vaulted ceilings and dormer windows (easily identified from the exterior of the building). Lodge tower rooms are located in the main building in the semi-circular tower-type structures at the corners of the buildings. In addition to the standard size room, the lodge tower room features an additional sitting area in the semi-circular portion of the room which includes a sofa and second television. Honeymoon suites are available with or without Jacuzzi baths in the main building, and several suites of varying sizes and opulence are also located in the main building.

Rooms in the main building are closest to the restaurants, shops, and monorail station. The convention center is most easily accessed from the main and Sago Cay buildings. Nearest the marina are Sugarloaf Key and Conch Key buildings. Access to the boat launch ramp is closest to Conch Key and Boca Chica buildings. Boca Chica and Big Pine Key buildings are closest to the quiet pool, and Big Pine Key and the Main building are nearest the new Beach pool and spa & health club building. Most of the suites and concierge service rooms are located in the main building. Some concierge services are now also being offered in the Sugarloaf Key building.

Dining

Dining at the Grand Floridian is one of the highlights of the resort, with several different options for all tastes and budgets. The only restaurant at Walt Disney World to require formal attire is Victoria & Albert’s in the main building of the resort. The premier dining experience at the Grand Floridian, Victoria & Albert’s nightly serves a full, custom-designed 5 course menu specially selected by the chef. Reservations are required, and they mean it: no-shows are charged cancellation fees. The award-winning cuisine and accompanying wines are hand-selected nightly and prepared to order. Very, very expensive, but well worth doing at least once to see how the upper crust dine.

Not quite as fancy, but still an upscale restaurant is Citrico’s, located in the main building. Citrico’s serves Mediterranean-inspired salads, seafood, pasta, and meat dishes. The food here is quite good, but I have found the service to be somewhat spotty.

Narcoossee’s, located in its own building on the shores of Seven Seas lagoon next to the Conch Key building, is the Grand Floridian’s fine steak house. This restaurant, which has a wonderful atmosphere (especially when it’s warm and the windows are open to the outside) is noted for its steak, chicken, and seafood.

1900 Park Fare, located on the first floor of the main building, is the location of the Grand Floridian’s buffet. A daily character breakfast is found here, with visits from Mary Poppins, Alice in Wonderland, and other Disney characters. A Disney character dinner buffet with Pooh and Friends is also offered.

The Grand Floridian Café, also located on the first floor of the main building, is a more casual dining experience featuring American-style dishes of chicken, salad, pasta, hamburgers, sandwiches, and seafood. While still not inexpensive, this is a great place to catch a quick breakfast or lunch.

Gasparilla Grill & Games is the Grand Floridian’s counter-service restaurant, and can be accessed only from the outside of the main building. It’s undoubtedly the best of the WDW counter service restaurants, and I have found the food here to be consistently better than that found at any other resort. The usual fare of hamburgers, hot dogs, and pizza can be found, along with deli sandwiches, fresh salads, and fresh bakery items.

Transportation

Monorail service is offered from the monorail station located on the second floor of the main building. The resort monorail departs from this station for the Magic Kingdom, and then continues on to the Contemporary, the Ticket and Transportation Center, and the Polynesian. Epcot is accessible by riding the resort monorail to the Ticket and Transportation Center and switching there to the Epcot monorail.

Bus transportation to Disney-MGM Studios, Animal Kingdom, Downtown Disney, and the Ticket and Transportation center is available from bus stops located just outside of the main building entrance.

Boat service is available from the water launch dock next to Narcoossee’s with service to the Magic Kingdom and Polynesian.

Activities

There are two swimming pools at the Grand Floridian. A large, free-form quiet pool is located in the central courtyard between the Boca Chica, Big Pine Key, and Sugar Loaf Key buildings. There is ample patio space here and an abundance of lounge chairs for those inclined to sunbathe. Completed in 2001, the Beach pool is located at the southern end of the resort between the main building and the wedding pavilion. This new pool features a zero-entry area from the beach of Seven Seas lagoon, a man-made mountain, waterfall and waterslide.

True to its name, the Grand Floridian Resort and Spa features a world class spa located to the south of the main building near the new Beach pool. A fitness facility includes the very latest in fitness machines and equipment, and personal trainers are available to assist you in designing your ultimate workout. A wide variety of spa treatments is also available, including facials, massages, full-body skin treatments, water therapies, manicures, pedicures, and more. If you really want to make points with that significant other, gentlemen, schedule a whole or half day spa treatment with a sampling of several spa services. Trust me, it works!

An arcade is located in Gasparilla Grill & Games in the main building. Somewhat on the small side, this arcade features a fairly limited selection of video games, arcade games, and air hockey tables.

The Grand Floridian’s marina is located at the north end of the property and offers rentals of pontoon boats, sailboats, canopy boats and the ubiquitous water mice. In addition, the Grand Floridian offers for charter their 44-foot yacht Grand 1. It can be hired by groups of 2 to 12 people, and includes a captain and deckhand. Bring your wallet – the yacht goes for $350 per hour.

Two clay-court tennis courts are located adjacent to the health club and spa building. Tennis equipment can be rented at the health club, and professional instruction is available by appointment.

Two great activities are available for kids at the Grand Floridian. Disney’s Pirate Adventure departs from the marina every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. This fun-filled program, just for children ages 4-10, takes kids on a treasure hunt around seven seas lagoon. Each child is given a pirate hat (complete with Mickey ears, of course) after which they board a boat, complete with pirate flag, and cruise to the different resort marinas around Seven Seas lagoon and Bay Lake hunting for pirate treasure. The two-hour adventure includes lunch.

The Wonderland Tea Party is held Monday through Friday at 1:30 pm in the main building for children ages 3-10. Parents are not invited. Characters from Alice in Wonderland, including Alice herself, host a tea party for the kids complete with snacks, games, songs, crafts, and, of course, tea with Alice and her friends. Tea lasts for approximately one hour.

Not to be left out, adults too can enjoy tea at the Grand Floridian. Afternoon tea is served daily from 3pm- 6pm in the Garden View lounge. Tea is accompanied by a wonderful selection of pastries and fresh fruit.

Finally, if you’re really bored, why don’t you take the afternoon off and get married? The Grand Floridian has its very own Fairytale Wedding Pavilion located on a peninsula extending into the Seven Seas lagoon. From this extremely picturesque spot, you can exchange vows with Cinderella Castle in the background. Full-service wedding planning and coordination services are available.

Insider’s Tips and Tricks

As mentioned before, the Grand Floridian’s 44-foot yacht, the Grand 1 is available for hire. If you can get a large enough group together to split the cost, charter the boat for the evening and enjoy a gourmet dinner aboard, and then watch the Magic Kingdom’s fireworks show while floating in the middle of Seven Seas lagoon. The fireworks look even more brilliant when they are reflected back from the water.

If you have a lagoon-view room booked, be sure to request a dormer room. These rooms are located on the top floor of all the buildings and feature vaulted ceilings inside. Although the rooms are not any larger than the standard rooms, they seem quite a bit larger and, in my opinion, more comfortable with the high ceilings. In addition, dormer rooms are the only standard-level rooms with private balconies. Non-dormer rooms on the lower floors all have shared balconies.

If you need a little extra room, book a lodge tower room. These rooms have an additional sitting/living area that extends into the round tower-type structures on the main building. This additional room is great to have if you need to squeeze in an additional person or just want to stretch out a little bit.

If you have booked a water view room and want to obtain a view of the Magic Kingdom, Cinderella Castle, and the MK fireworks, your best bet is to ask for accommodations in the Boca Chica building. All of the rooms on the east side of this building have fantastic views of the Magic Kingdom and Seven Seas lagoon. In addition, the Electric Water Parade will stop right outside your window for its nightly performance. However, if you’re feeling really lucky and a view of the MK is of paramount importance to you, request a north-end room in either the Conch Key or Sago Cay buildings. These rooms have by far the best view of the Magic Kingdom and the Castle, but there aren’t very many of them, and they are in high demand and very difficult to get.

Sign your kids up for the Pirate Adventure and Wonderland Tea Party. Both of these programs are absolutely fantastic and earn rave reviews. In addition to giving you an hour or two for sunning, sleep, or spa treatments, the kids will have a ball and will most likely point to this experience as one of the high points of their vacation. The staff is well-trained and enthusiastic, and really have a good time interacting with each child to make sure they have a great time.

Be sure to experience the afternoon tea. It’s a cultural thing you’ll be glad you did at least once in your life, and you may find that you’ll be wanting to go back. The food served at tea is fantastic, with delicious fresh pastry and fruit. Well worth an hour of your afternoon.

Don’t fret if you can’t afford a water view room. Although a view of the lagoon is desirable, there really are only a few rooms in the whole resort with really rotten views. Most garden view rooms look out on to the impeccably maintained landscaping and provide excellent views. I do not mind a garden view room at the Grand Floridian near as much as I do at other resorts.

A meal at Victoria & Albert’s is a don’t miss. While I would not recommend it for every visit, it’s an experience that is unlike any other. The food and drink are absolutely wonderful, and the service is what you’d expect for a premier dining location. You’ll never feel so pampered and well-served as you do during your meal here.

The new Beach pool is a real gem and is often overlooked on the list of great WDW pools. That’s good for you, because it means that it’s usually not all that crowded. The fact that not many people know about it, coupled with the fact that the Grand Floridian attracts a more adult clientele, means that an enjoyable and fairly uncrowded afternoon can be spend riding the waterslide and splashing in the waterfall.

Another great fireworks-watching location is from your table at Narcoossee’s. Book a priority seating for a late dinner or maybe just for dessert, and enjoy a good meal with an outstanding view of the Magic Kingdom, the boat traffic on Seven Seas lagoon, and the fireworks show.

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“House of the Future” – The Plastic House in Disneyland

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I was down in Massachusetts the other day doing some shopping at the Target in Framingham. And as I completed that transaction, I was somewhat surprised to see my groceries being loaded into … Well, not the usual Target bags (i.e., those white plastic ones with the bright red circular Target symbol on the side). But – rather – some plain jane brown paper bags.

Of course, that was because the State of Massachusetts (along with California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, New York, Oregon, Vermont & Washington State) has banned the use of plastic bags within the borders of that state.

FYI: The State of New Jersey put its own statewide ban of plastic bags in place earlier this year. On May 4, 2022, to be exact.

Which – if you’re a child of the 1960s – this is kind of an ironic development. Given that – back when we were kids – the world-at-large seemed to be actively looking for even more ways to incorporate the use of plastic in our day-to-day lives.

Which reminds me of one of the odder walk-thru experiences that was ever built at Disneyland Park (Which – given that Happiest Place on Earth was once home to the Hollywood-Maxwell’s Intimate Apparel Shop [This Main Street, U.S.A. store used to feature – no lie — a “Wonderful Wizard of Bras” show] – is really saying something). That was the “House of the Future,” a 1,280-square-foot structure  that the Monsanto Corporation proudly proclaimed was made out of 14 different types of plastics.

Given that this Tomorrowland attraction wasn’t designed by the Imagineers … Well, how the “House of the Future” wind up being built right off Disneyland’s Hub to the left of the entrance of Disneyland?

Disneyland's House of the Future
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Post World War II – Moving Out of the City

Well, to tell that story, we have to jump back in time to the years right after World War II. Where – thanks to the G.I. Bill – hundreds of thousands of veterans decided to pursue college degrees. Which then allowed these former fighting men to land positions that paid much, much better than the jobs that their parents had held years previous.

And since these newly affluent veterans could now afford to move out of the city … Well, that’s just what they did. Which we saw places like Levittown (i.e., America’s very first planned community. The prototypical suburb, if you will) get founded in New York State’s Nassau in 1947 and – in just six years time – become the home of more than 70,000 residents.

Mind you, the downside of this sort of building boom is that – by the mid-1950s – America began to experience sort of a shortage when it came to the supplies necessary to continue to build all these new homes for would-be surburbanites.

Monsanto and Plastic Homes

Which the Monsanto Corporation – which was actively looking for additional way to market the plastic that that company produced – saw as an opportunity. Which is when Monsanto executives reached out to Marvin Goody & Richard Hamilton, who were members of the faculty at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology that taught the principles of architecture to students attending that prestigious university. And those execs then asked Goody & Hamilton two intriguing questions:

  • Would it be possible to build an affordable modular home entirely out of plastic?
  • And – if so – what would that structure look like?

These two MIT professors then went off and considered this problem. And the concept that Goody & Hamilton eventually came up with was … Well, this prefabricated plastic structure that consisted of four cantilevered “wings” that would then rise up off of a concrete slab, which would then as the foundation for what Monsanto was now calling its “House of the Future.”

Designs of the House of the Future
Monsanto’s Marvin Goody (standing) along with Floor Plans and Designs for the “House of the Future”
Credit: ModernDesign.org

And the executives at Monsanto just loved what Goody & Hamilton had designed & developed. They knew that – if this prefabricated plastic home prototype were promoted properly and if enough consumers then indicated to home-builders that they’d be interested in purchasing & then living in this sort of modular structure – the “House of the Future” could turn into a significant new revenue stream for that corporation.

Which is when Monsanto then began casting about for a very prominent spot where they could then build a “House of the Future” prototype. Some place where thousands of people could then tour this prefabricated plastic home every single day.

Walt Disney and Problems with Tomorrowland

Which brings us to Walt Disney. Who – in the mid-1950s – has a few problems of his own. Chief among them being that his then-newly-built Disneyland Park desperately needed some new attractions. Especially in the Tomorrowland section of Walt’s family fun park.

What’s genuinely ironic here is that – in spite of the fact that “Man in Space,” “Man and the Moon” and “Mars and Beyond” (i.e., A trio of “Tomorrowland” themed episodes of the “Disneyland” TV show which then aired on that ABC anthology series between March of 1955 & December of 1957) were among the most popular episodes to air on this program … The Tomorrowland section of Disneyland Park was this under-developed hodge-podge of pseudo-futuristic elements.

I mean, sure. This side of Walt’s family fun park had the “Flight to the Moon” ride. Likewise “Space Station X-1.” But right next door to these two genuinely forward-looking attractions were shows that had absolutely nothing to do with the future. Walk-through exhibits like the Dutch Boy Color Gallery, Kaiser’s Hall of Aluminum and Crane’s Bathroom of the Future.

Monsanto Corporation Partnership with Walt Disney Productions

Now it’s important to note here that the Monsanto Corporation and Walt Disney Productions already had a working relationship at this point. After all, Monsanto was already sponsoring an attraction at Disneyland, the Hall of Chemistry.

And it’s about this same time (we’re talking late 1956) that some enterprising executive at Monsanto thinks: “No wait a minute. Disneyland gets thousands of visitors every day. And if we build the prototype of our prefabricated plastic home there, our ‘House of the Future’ project would then virtually be guaranteed to get plenty of foot traffic.”

“House of the Future” in Disneyland

So they then reach out to Walt. And as the story goes, the executives at Monsanto hadn’t even finished their pitch for this prototype-prefabricated-plastic-home-to-be-displayed-at-Disneyland idea when Disney said “Yes.” In fact, according to what Disney Legend John Hench once told me, Walt was so enthusiastic about Monsanto’s “House of the Future” that he proposed that this prototype of a prefabricated plastic home not just be built in Tomorrowland but that it be built right at the entrance of Tomorrowland. As in: That the “House of the Future” would be one of the very first things Guests would see when they arrived at Disneyland’s Hub.

More importantly, that Monsanto’s prototype of a prefabricated plastic house be built right across the way from the most photographed thing in Walt’s family fun park. Which was – of course – Sleeping Beauty Castle.

To say that this project was fast-tracked is an understatement. Within weeks of signing the deal with Monsanto, the folks at Disneyland were already pouring the concrete slab that this 1,280-square-foot house would then sit on.

Credit: Disney Avenue

By the way, to make sure that virtually every Disneyland Guest would be able to tour the “House of the Future” when they visited Walt’s family fun park, this new Tomorrowland attraction was heavily hyped as being a freebie. As was Monsanto’s Hall of Chemistry, by the way.

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Opening Monsanto’s “House of the Future” at Disneyland

And Walt … Of the heels of construction of Monsanto’s “House of the Future” beginning, he decided to double down on expanding & upgrading Disneyland’s Tomorrowland section. Which is why — just two days before Monsanto’s prototype of a prefabricated plastic home opened to the public on June 12, 1957, Walt cut the ribbon on the Viewliner. Which was advertised as the “Train of Tomorrow.” Though –truth be told – WED’s resident mechanical genius Bob Gurr had cobbled together this futuristic-looking narrow gauge train out of parts he’d harvested off of various Oldsmobiles & Jeeps.

Anyway … Monsanto’s instincts when it came to building its “House of the Future” at Disneyland Park translating into lots of foot traffic for its prefabricated plastic home prototype turned out to be dead on. Within the first six weeks that this new Tomorrowland attraction was open to the public, over 435,000 people toured the “House of the Future.” That’s over 10,000 Guests per day.

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And the Disneyland hosts & hostesses (That’s what Disneyland employees were called back in the late 1950s / early 1960s. Not Cast Members. But – rather – hosts & hostesses) who led tour groups through the prototype of Monsanto’s prefabricated home proudly talked about the 14 different types of plastic that had been used in its construction. They also pointed out the cutting edge tech that had been incorporated into this house’s design. Things like a microwave oven.

The Future of Plastic Homes

But while over 20 million people who trooped through Monsanto’s “House of the Future” during its decade-long stay in Tomorrowland (and then “Ooohed” & “Aaahed” at things like this home’s ultra sonic dishwasher. Which didn’t use any water to clean the all-plastic dishes & utensils that were used in its kitchen) … Unfortunately, Monsanto got very few takers for its prefabricated plastic homes.

Which is why – by the early 1960s – the Company had all but abandoned its original idea of making the manufacture of prefabricated plastic homes a new division for the Monsanto Corporation. Which is why – when Walt approached Monsanto around this same time and said “Hey, we’re thinking of redoing Disneyland’s Tomorrowland area. Do you want to stay on as a sponsor of something on this side of the Park?,” Monsanto’s response was “Yeah. But we want something new. Pull down the ‘House of the Future’ and close the’ Hall of Chemistry.’ This time around,  we want some sort of Tomorrowland attraction that the Guests can ride on.”

And that’s exactly what the Imagineers did. They gutted Monsanto’s “Hall Of Chemistry” and then placed an Omnimover inside of that Tomorrowland show building. And that became the ride system which then took Disneyland visitors on an “Adventure Thru Inner Space.” Which first opened to the public on August 5, 1967.

What Happened to Disneylands “House of the Future”?

As for the “House of the Future” … Given that that structure was constructed out of 14 different types of plastics, pulling down this Tomorrowland attraction proved to be problematic. What was supposed to be completed in a single day eventually stretched out into a two week-long ordeal. Largely because this prefabricated plastic house stymied all of the usual methods that Disneyland employees used (i.e., wrecking balls, bulldozers, etc) when they were leveling a show building. In time, they had to go at this futuristic structure with hacksaws & chain pullers. Because that was the only way to reduce the “House of the Future” to small enough pieces that it could then be hauled away.

Mind you, the concrete slab that had served as the “House of the Future” ‘s foundation stayed in place. As did the vaguely futuristic-looking landscaping that Morgan “Bill” Evans and the rest of Disneyland’s horticultural team had planted around this Tomorrowland walk-thu.

Jump ahead a few years. And now that landscaping (which had been originally planted back in 1957 to give the “House of the Future” a lush, green frame) had grown up so much that this section of the Hub was then redubbed this theme park’s Alpine Garden. With the idea now being that this chunk of greenery would now serve as the forested foothills of Matterhorn Mountain.

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That was done in the early 1970s. Nearly 15 years after that, someone else moved into the neighborhood: The Little Mermaid. Which is why – in 1996 – Disneyland’s Alpine Garden was renamed King Triton’s Garden. Then in 2008, this part of that theme park (which had been changed into a place where Guests could then meet & greet with Ariel) was reimagined as Pixie Hollow. Which then gave Disneyland visitors a place where they could go interact with Tinker Bell.

This meet & greet is still operational at the Happiest Place on Earth. That said, if you look off the right of that oversized teapot which Tink calls home … Well, you can still see that concrete slab which – over 50 years ago now – once served as the foundation for the “House of the Future.”

FYI: If you’d like to learn more about this Tomorrowland walk-thru, Dave Bossert – the author of “Kem Weber: Mid-Century Furniture Designs for the Disney Studios” and “Claude Coats: Walt Disney’s Imagineer—The Making of Disneyland, From Toad Hall to the Haunted Mansion and Beyond” – is in the process of writing a brand-new book, “The House of the Future: Walt Disney, MIT, and Monsanto’s Vision of Tomorrow.” Which is due to be published sometime in 2023.

This article is based on research for The Disney Dish Podcast “Episode 379”, published on June 20, 2022. The Disney Dish Podcast is part of the Jim Hill Media Podcast Network.

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Fort Wilderness – What Might Have Been

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The Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue at Fort Wilderness Campground has been silent for 27 months. On June 23, 2022, Pioneer Hall will come roaring back to life with three nightly presentations of this beloved musical dinner show (4 p.m., 6:15 p.m. & 8:30 p.m.)

Hoop Dee Doo Revue Chair
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Building Fort Wilderness Campground

Just 9 months prior to the October 1971 opening of the WDW Resort – Dick Nunis (who had just been placed in charge of getting Disney World open on time) had just learned that little to no work had been done to date on the Disney’s Fort Wilderness resort’s campground.

Dick turned to Keith Kambak – a veteran Disneyland employee who had a degree in recreation – and effectively said “You’re coming to Florida with me. And you’re going to build a campground.”

When Keith pointed out that he had never built a campground before and began to ask questions like “What sort of budget am I working with?,” Dick growled “Don’t bother me with questions. Just go build that campground?”

Kambak gets on the ground in Orlando and then discovers why Nunis didn’t tell him what the budget was for Fort Wilderness.

There is no budget.

Disney World is so far over-budget at this point that there’s a real question – in the late Winter / early Spring of 1971 – whether the Resort will be able to find the funding necessary to complete construction of the Contemporary and/or the Polynesian Village Resorts. Let alone get started on building a new onsite campground.

But the PR material for Walt Disney World has been talking up camping at the Vacation Kingdom for over 5 years now. Saying things like …

Walt Disney World will offer a whole new vacation way of life. In addition to exploring the Magic Kingdom theme park, Guests will have the opportunity to frolic in Bay Lake & Seven Seas Lagoon. This 650-acre expanse of water, lined with four miles of white sand beaches, will ideal for swimming, sailing, fishing and water skiing.

Meanwhile over at Fort Wilderness, visitors will find 600 acres of campgrounds, boating, nature trails, park-like recreation areas and the Tri-Circle D Ranch, where saddle horses are available.

People have already booked trips to Disney World because they wanted to go camping at that Resort. Go swimming in Bay Lake. So Disney now has to figure out how to deliver on what it said in all those press release.

1971 Walt Disney World Map of Fort Wilderness Credit: Imaginerding / Story of Walt Disney World Guidebook

Luckily, Keith Kambak is clever, resourceful and slightly dishonest. He becomes famous for waiting ‘til the construction workers go home at 5 and then sending trucks into the Magic Kingdom worksite to steal lumber & bags of cement. Which is what Keith then uses to build Fort Wilderness’ original reception center and the first 200 campsites.

Opening Disney’s Fort Wilderness Campground

Mind you – Fort Wilderness isn’t ready for opening day.

Hell, this campground really isn’t ready when in finally throws open its doors on November 19, 1971seven weeks after the first group of Guests pushed through the turnstiles over at the Magic Kingdom.

But even if Fort Wilderness isn’t really ready for prime time, campers absolutely love the place right out of the gate. It initially costs $11 a night to stay there.  And the people who stay there are really excited that – as part of that $11 fee – they get access to the entire WDW transportation system. The monorails, the launches, the motor coaches.

And given that demand for those 200 campsites far exceeds the available supply, Walt Disney World quickly begins to expand Fort Wilderness. In October of 1972 (just in time for the celebration of the Resort’s grand opening a year previous), it is announced that Disney World’s onsite campground will more than doubling in size. Adding an additional 300 sites.

By now, WDW managers have noticed an interesting phenomenon. Guests who are staying at the Contemporary & Polynesian Village will make a special trip over to Fort Wilderness over the course of their WDW vacation just to check the place out.

Mind you, there isn’t much to see at this point. A handful of campsites and a trading post. But the Imagineers make note of the steady stream of daily visitors that Fort Wilderness has been experiencing and then decides … Well, let’s give them something to see.

Fort Wilderness Railroad

So a plan is formed. First and foremost, the Imagineers decide to build a transportation system that will take Guests from Fort Wilderness’ reception area to the south all the way up to the campground’s recreation area along Bay Lake. This 3-mile-long round-trip narrow gauge rail line (which will be serviced by four steam trains with 5 cars each – capable of carrying 90 passengers at a time) will carry Guests from their campsites to the reception area and then down to the waterfront.

Walt Disney World Fort Wilderness Railroad Attraction Poster, Railroad in action, and remnants of old track.
Walt Disney World Fort Wilderness Railroad Attraction Poster, Railroad in action, and remnants of old track.

That rail line gets installed over the Summer of 1973. It’s field-tested in the Fall of that same year and finally fully operational just time for Christmas Week 1973 / 1st week of January 1974.

Tri-Circle D Ranch

There’s another reason that the Imagineers built that rail line. That’s because they’re looking to develop the middle-most section of Fort Wilderness. This area – known as the Settlement – initially holds just the Tri-Circle D Ranch (which is where the horses that pull the trolleys on Main Street over at the Magic Kingdom spend their days off. Likewise Fort Wilderness’ petting zoo).

But because so many Guests staying at the Contemporary & the Polynesian Village are making a special trip over to Fort Wilderness as part of their WDW vacation just to see what there is to see over there … the Imagineers give them something to see.

Pioneer Hall

The first thing up out of the ground is Pioneer Hall, which is constructed out of 1,283 hand-fitted pine logs from Montana and 70 tons of stones from North Carolina. This venue first opens its doors on April 1, 1974. And initially there is absolutely no mention of the “Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue.”

Instead, Pioneer Hall is described as having “ … a 250-seat steak house where ranch-style barbecues will be offered, plus a 150-seat snack bar, theme shops and an arcade for after-hours recreation.”

Mind you, if you dig down in the original Pioneer Hall press release (which initially says that this complex will be up & running by February of 1974), there is mention that this “new service-oriented campground complex” would be fully equipped when it came to the presenting of musical stage shows.

But at this point (The Spring of 1974), there’s honestly no talk of the “Hoop-Dee-Doo.” There is – however – all sorts of talk of the other components of Fort Wilderness’ Settlement project. Which are supposed to begin construction shortly.

By next summer, Fort Wilderness’ steam train system will connect the campground’s reception area and its waterfront recreation facilities with the Fort Wilderness Stockade and Western Town. Where complete dining, shopping and entertainment facilities are being built in phases.

And a year or so after Western Town opened at Fort Wilderness opened, the Imagineers then wanted to build (this is from the Company’s 1973 annual report) …

… the Fort Wilderness “swimming hole,” a major recreational facility.

The Roost and River Country

Wait. It gets better. WDW managers – at this point – were actually talking about building a fun house onsite at Fort Wilderness. One that would feature show scenes designed by Marc Davis and would be housed in an eccentric-looking mansion that would be called “The Roost.”

River Country Wagon
Credit: Flickr/Auntie Rain

Once “The Roost” was opened (This project was projected to be completed by the Summer of 1977, with Fort Wilderness’ swimming hole – eventually called “River Country” – opening the previous year. Just in time for America’s bicentennial), WDW officials eventually envisioned selling visitors to their Florida vacation kingdom a special Fort Wilderness ticket book. Which would then give Guests a full day of fun at Fort Wilderness.

  • Take the bus over to Fort Wilderness’ reception area
  • Then take the train down to that campground’s settlement section
  • Swim in the morning at River Country
  • Spend the afternoon exploring the Roost, hiking Fort Wilderness’ nature trails, visiting the petting zoo and/or go horseback riding
  • Catch a performance of the “Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue” at Pioneer Hall
  • Do some souvenir shopping in Frontier Town
  • Walk down to the waterfront at Bay Lake after dusk and then catch a presentation of the “Electrical Water Pageant”
  • Grab the train and head back up to Fort Wilderness’ reception area
  • Take a motor coach back to your hotel

1973 Arab Oil Embargo Impacts Fort Wilderness Development

This was the plan as the Fall of 1973. Which then – of course – is when the Arab Oil Embargo got underway. And attendance levels at Walt Disney World suddenly fell off by 20% because of the odd / even gas rationing that was going on at that time. So many Guests were worried that – if they began driving down to Walt Disney World – that they then wouldn’t be able to find enough gasoline en route to complete their journey to the Resort.

The Arab Oil Embargo obviously had a huge impact on Fort Wilderness’ previously-stellar occupancy levels (Typically at 100% capacity from Christmas Week through Labor Day) because of the number of people who’d drive down to Disney World pulling a trailer. Occupancy levels dropped to 70% and managers there got scared.

The other components of the Fort Wilderness’ Settlement area – the Stockade and Western Town, to be specific – that were to follow Pioneer Hall got placed on hold. As did Marc Davis’ The Roost project.

As for “River Country” … I’m told that the only reason that project went forward is because the Company had already ordered the 2500 feet of flume that would eventually be used to build Whoop-n-Holler Hollow.

Fascinating to think what might have been around Pioneer Hall if the Arab Oil Embargo hadn’t tripped up WDW’s executives to turn Fort Wilderness into a day-long destination for Disney World visitors to experience over their Florida vacation.

One final stat from a Disney annual report from 1974 that just fascinated me:

“Pioneer Hall,” a major entertainment, restaurant and arcade facility, opened in March and soon established itself as a popular guest attraction and profitable operation. Twice as many guests come from the resort-hotels to attend the dinner show in Pioneer Hall than from the campgrounds themselves.

Just so you know: WDW didn’t entirely abandon its plans to turn Fort Wilderness into a day-long vacation destination.

Opening River Country at Fort Wilderness Campground

River Country opened at Fort Wilderness on June 19, 1976. This five-acre water park quickly started drawing – on average — 4,700 Guests per day during the Summer months of 1976. Interestingly enough, there is no drop in attendance levels over at the Magic Kingdom after the opening of River Country. Which means that this new water park is drawing an additional nearly 5000 people to the Resort every day. Which means that River Country immediately became a huge new profit center at WDW.

Downside … All of these additional people coming to Fort Wilderness every day needing to get down to the water park just as most people staying at WDW’s campsite want to get over to the Magic kingdom overwhelm the campground’s steam train line / eventually causing the system to fail.

Imagineers immediately begin looking for ways to expand Fort Wilderness. Company’s 1976 annual report mentions plans for “ … more water rides, an additional raft ride or a two-man boat ride.”

Likewise, to try and handle the crowds who are now pouring int Fort Wilderness each day, the Imagineers revisit the idea of building Frontiertown in the stretch of land that exists between Pioneer Hall and River Country.

Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort and Campground

But then the Company gets serious about going forward with construction of EPCOT Center. And all available funding for future expansion at the WDW Resort – including the funds that had been set aside for Fort Wilderness – gets funneled into WDW’s second gate.

This article is based on research for The Disney Dish Podcast “Episode 378”, published on June 13, 2022. The Disney Dish Podcast is part of the Jim Hill Media Podcast Network.

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Steam Trains & World’s Fair Attractions: Speed of Construction at Disneyland in the 1960s

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Steam train fans rejoiced in May 2022 when photos appeared online showing crews prepping the rail bed for the Walt Disney World Railroad. This Magic Kingdom favorite was temporarily shut down in early December of 2018 so that site prep could then begin for Tomorrowland’s next thrill ride, TRON Lightcycle Run.

Three years and 5 months later (which – let’s be honest here – is a pretty relaxed definition of “temporarily”), what with the rail bed being regraded … It’s only a matter of time before the ties that the rails sit on get put in place. Which means that we’re only months out from the Walt Disney World Railroad once again making a Grand Circle Tour of the Magic Kingdom. 20-minute-long experience / rolling along 1.5 miles worth of track.

Early Disneyland Attraction Downtime and Maintenance

I have to say that Walt himself wouldn’t have tolerated the idea of Disney World’s steam train being out of commission for 3 & a ½ years while a single attraction was added to the Magic Kingdom. He could barely tolerate it back in late 1965 / early 1966 when Disneyland’s railroad had to be shut down for a few months so that FOUR new attractions could added to “The Happiest Place on Earth.”

Mind you, Walt had an advantage in Anaheim back in the Fall of 1965 / Spring of 1966 that the folks who operate the Disney theme parks in Florida never got to enjoy. Which was — for much of the first 30 years Disneyland Park was in operation – that theme park was closed on Mondays & Tuesdays during the slow season. Which was the early Fall and late Winter months.

Which meant that – during those two-days-a-week the theme park-going public wasn’t wandering around the Happiest Place on Earth, getting underfoot – construction teams could get a crazy amount of work done.

More to the point: This was right after “Mary Poppins” had first opened in theaters (Its Hollywood premiere was held in late August of 1964, with the film itself going into wide release just three weeks later). And given that this Walt Disney Productions release would go on to be the highest grossing film of 1964 … Well, Walt now had a money fire hose in his hand and wasn’t afraid to use it.

World’s Fair Attractions Moved to Disneyland

So the first season of the 1964 – 1965 New York World’s Fair ends on October 18, 1964. Walt immediately has the Lincoln animatronic pulled out of the Illinois pavilion and brought back to Glendale. Where the Imagineers not only build a brand-new version of Honest Abe (one that will then address all of the operational issues that this Audio Animatronic had during its first year in Flushing Meadow where it was then constantly dealing with the Fair’s flukey electrical system), they built a second animatronic Lincoln.

Which is how the “Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln” show was able to open in the Main Street Opera House on July 18, 1965 (just as Disneyland was celebrating its tencennial. As in: The 10th anniversary of the Park’s opening to the public).

Changing Disneyland’s Anniversary

Interesting side note: While Walt was still alive, Disney’s anniversary of Disneyland’s opening was always celebrated on July 18th (which was when the public was first allowed into that family fun park). After Walt died in December of 1966, the date of the celebration of the anniversary of the opening of Disneyland Park eventually got shifted one day forward to July 17th. Because – if the Company used that date instead of July 18th – it then became possible to reshow that 90 minute-long “Dateline: Disneyland” special that aired live on ABC. Not to mention share all of those pictures of celebrities who visited the Park on July 17, 1955.

Disney’s done the same thing in the past. Mickey Mouse’s birthday used to be October 1st. Walt Disney himself – back in 1933 – announced that was the Mouse’s birthdate. But in 1978, then-Disney archivist Dave Smith issued a correction. Given that Mickey’s first cartoon with synchronized sound – “Steamboat Willie” – debuted at New York City’s Colonial Theatre on November 18, 1928 … Well, from that point forward, November 18th would be considered Mickey’s birthday.

Long story short: To borrow a phrase from “Doctor Who,” when it comes to the timey-wimey aspects of Disney Company history, things can get a little slippy-slidey.

Moving “it’s a small world” to Disneyland

Getting back to Walt and his money fire hose … While the New York World’s Fair was shut down for the Winter between October 1964 and April of 1967, Walt had the 27 technicians that he’d sent out from Disney Studios out to New York to keep all of the shows that the Imagineers had built for the Fair up & running … Well, Walt first had these folks retool the load / unload area for “it’s a small world.”

it's a small world at New York World's Fair

That sponsored-by-Pepsi-Cola attraction was a people-eating machine. On average, 4500 people a hour were able to experience “The Happiest Voyage That Ever Sailed.” Which meant that 80% of the people who went to the New York World’s Fair in 1964 & 1965 were able to experience “Small World.”

But Walt thought that they could do even better. Which is why – during the off-season – he had the Imagineers reworked that attraction’s load/ unload area so that it could be even more efficient. With the goal of getting an additional 500 people an hour through “it’s a small world.”

World’s Fair Closing and Final Move

Of course, once the New York World’s Fair closed for good on October 17, 1965, the race was on. The Imagineers partnered with the Mayflower Moving Company to get all of those sets & animatronic figures packed up as quickly as possible and then set back to Glendale for refurbishment. That’s what happened to the 32 animatronic figures in “General Electric’s Progressland” pavilion. Likewise all of the mechanical dinosaurs that used to menace fairgoers as they rolled through “Ford’s Magic Skyway.”

Now the genuinely crazy part of this story is that – just seven months later – the Disneyland versions of these New York World’s Fair shows began to open in Anaheim. “it’s a small world” opened on the West Coast on May 28, 1966. And this wasn’t just the exact same show that had played in Flushing Meadow for the past two years. Walt insisted that it be plussed & improved prior to installation. Which is how the Anaheim edition of “it’s a small world” wound up with two additional scenes – the Pacific Islands and the North Pole.

Credit: Disney History Institute

“The Primeval World” Diorama

And just a month or so after that, “The Primeval World” – which, at that time, the Company’s PR team described as “ … the world’s largest diorama featuring life-like recreations of some of the largest creatures to ever roam our planet” – opened on July 1, 1966.

Now what’s kind of intriguing about the “Primeval World” diorama is what’s to either side of this structure. Which is the old Disneyland administration building. This three story structure – which was also built in late 1965 / early 1966 as part of what was then supposed to be the biggest building program in Disneyland history – was built in such a way that half of this 450 foot-long structure was built on the outside of the berm and the other half of this 450 foot-long structure was built on the inside of the berm. With the structure that the Disneyland steam train passed through, that lengthy glassed-in room full of animatronic dinosaurs then serving as … Well, if you think of Disneyland’s new Admin building as an enormous Oreo, the “Primeval World” diorama then served as this 100,000 square foot structure’s creamy center.

Kind of a funny side story here. Everyone who worked in the 200 offices who were housed in Disneyland’s new Admin building would tell the same story. How – for the first few days you worked in this three story tall structure – you couldn’t help but notice how the Admin building would rumble as the steam train passed through the giant diorama in the middle of that structure. Or – for that matter – how the roar of the mechanical dinosaurs below would endlessly faintly echo center through the building as long as that ride was running.

Conversely though, after a few days of working in the Disneyland admin building, the rumble of the steam train and the roar of the dinosaurs just became white noise. That’s how you’d then know if you were dealing with a new hire at the Park. If someone who had just been assigned to the Admin building would then turn to you and say “What is that noise?” And – as a Company vet – you could then say “Oh, yeah. About that.”

“…a Disneyland without its steam trains just isn’t worth the full price of admission.”

Getting back to all of the construction that was going on at Disneyland in late 1965 / early 1966 … You  have to remember that – if we’re talking about “Pirates of the Caribbean” and “it’s a small world” – we’re talking about two attractions with huge show buildings that were built outside of the theme park. Which meant – in order for these two boat-powered rides to take Guests under the berm and then out to their main show buildings and then back into the Park to their off-load areas … That meant digging a passage under the track bed of the Disneyland Railroad. Several passages, actually.

But again, because the steam train at Disneyland was Walt’s personal property at this time (along with the Mark Twain steamboat AND the Alweg Monorail), Walt just wouldn’t tolerate the idea that the steam train at the park would be shut down for a year or more to allow construction of these four new major attractions. As Disneyland’s tencennial celebration began to wind down in the late Summer / early Fall of 1965, Walt turned to the Imagineers and said “I’ll give you five months. Figure it out.”

Mind you, Walt reportedly got furious with the Imagineers when – due to the enormous construction challenges this $23 million project entailed — …

… That – by the way – is what it cost to building the Disneyland version of “it’s a small world,” New Orleans Square, Pirates of the Caribbean, Primeval World AND the Park’s new administration building. Just $23 million total .

… Anyway, Walt reportedly got furious when – due to a very wet Spring (By the way, that Albert Hammond song from 1972 – “It Never Rains in Southern California” – lies through its teeth) – work on getting the Disneyland Railroad fell behind schedule by one entire month.

John Hench once told me about how – when they had to tell Walt that the opening of Disneyland’s railroad would be delayed by a full month in the Spring of 1966 – he’d never seen his boss so mad. Walt reportedly went on & on about how a Disney theme park without a steam train wasn’t worth the price that they were then charging people to get into Disneyland (a then-whopping $5.00 for adults, $4.50 for juniors – ages 12 – 17 – and $4.00 for kids 3 – 11. That would have gotten you the park’s Deluxe 15 Ticket book). Walt reportedly turned to John and said “If people ask, we’re going to have to agree to issue them a refund. Because a Disneyland without its steam trains just isn’t worth the full price of admission.”

I wonder what would happen if someone today went into City Hall at WDW’s Magic Kingdom and shared that story from the Spring of 1966. What a Cast Member who was working in Guest Relations at that theme park would have to say in response.

Walt Disney World Railroad Downtime

I mean, I get that it’s not their fault that the Walt Disney World Railroad has been out of commission since December of 2018. And we also have to acknowledge that much of the Resort was shuttered for months in 2020 during the early days of the pandemic.

Walt Disney World Railroad

But even so, at a time when the Florida parks are continually struggling to keep the rides, shows & attractions that they already have up & running on a reliable, regular basis, to have a people eater like the Magic Kingdom’s steam trains shut down for 3 & a half years … That’s just inexcusable.

This article is based on research for The Disney Dish Podcast “Episode 377”, published on June 6, 2022. The Disney Dish Podcast is part of the Jim Hill Media Podcast Network.

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