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“They’ll Never Put That on the Air” reveals how to grow a hit television series

Jim Hill reviews Allan Neuwirth’s latest book. In which TV veterans talk about how they took shaky new shows and eventually turned them into smash hits like “M*A*S*H,” “All in the Family” and “Seinfeld”

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Welcome to Day 3 of ABC’s Premiere Week.



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Over one seven-day-long period, the Alphabet Network is rolling out 11 brand-new series. Though two of this season’s more high profile projects, “Pushing Daisies” …



(L to R) Orbit the Dog, Swoosie Kurtz, Ellen Greene, Lee Pace, Anna Friel, Kristen
Chenoweuth and Chi McBride. Photo by Justin Stephens.
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… and “Cavemen” …



 (L to R) Nick Kroll, Julie White, Kaitlin Doubleday, Bill English, Sam
Huntington and Stephanie Lemelin. Photo by Bob D’Amico.
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… won’t actually debut on ABC ’til next week.


And after that … To be honest, it’s a crapshoot when it comes to which shows will ultimately succeed or fail this season. As Allan Neuwirth points out in his excellent “They’ll Never Put That on the Air: An Oral History of Taboo-Breaking TV Comedy” (Allworth Press, February 2006), there are so many factors that come into play in a situation like this.



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I mean, sometimes it’s a question of cost. Dick Martin (of Rowan & Martin fame) remembered that one of the main reasons that NBC got behind “Laugh-In” was because the show ” … only cost $165,000″ to produce. Which wasn’t a whole lot of money for an hour of television back in 1968.


So even though the TV special that served as the pilot for this new series got poor ratings, NBC execs still decided to order up 13 episodes. If only because that network had to put something on the air opposite the seemingly unstoppable “Here’s Lucy” and “Gunsmoke.”


As “Laugh-In” producer George Schlatter remembers:



“(NBC) had a show that was supposed to go on Monday night at 8:00 — and Lucille Ball was killing ’em. The CBS lineup Monday night with Lucille Ball and ‘Gunsmoke’ just killed NBC. They couldn’t do anything with anybody. So [network executives] said, ‘ Look, we’ve got this thing. Why don’t we throw it in there until we get a show ready, and it would cost no money … what’re we gonna lose? This isn’t gonna work anyhow.”

So, they put us in there, and nobody paid attention until like the fourth week.”



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That’s another key part to being successful on television. Sometimes the folks at the network have to be really patient. They may have to wait quite a while before viewers finally become aware of a new show and then begin sampling it.


As “M*A*S*H” producer Gene Reynolds recalled:



“We didn’t have a good lead-in: It was a show that I’d produced for the first thirteen weeks called ‘Anna and the King’ with Yul Brenner. And we failed with that.


But you see, M*A*S*H began to grow … even from the very beginning, it grew. But gradually. You could see, ‘Well, it’s doing better this week, now it’s doing even better this week …’ And it got strong enough so that in the second year, they gave us a very good position. That really did it for us … but also, it was a matter of people seeing the show, sampling the show … and showing what happens if you give it a chance.”


Mind you, it didn’t hurt that — during that first crucial year — that the wife of the head of the network was a M*A*S*H fan. As the show’s creator Larry Gelbart remembered:



“The first year, our ratings were so poor that it looked like we weren’t coming back at all. We were on at 8:00 at night on Sunday, the one day of the week we probably shouldn’t have been on. And legend has it that Babe Paley — Mrs. William S. Paley — loved the show, and we were saved by some pillow talk! It’s a great story … and if we say it often enough, it will be the truth.”



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There are lots of great stories like this to be found in “They’ll Never Put That on the Air.” Like how “All in the Family” — that hit sitcom that ran on CBS in various forms for over 12 years — actually started out life as an ABC project.


As Martin Starger, the former V.P. in charge of Programming at ABC recalled:



“ABC was the third network. CBS and NBC were the twin Rocks of Gibraltor — and for Len (Goldberg, ABC’s Head of Programming) and I, the challenge was fun. We were able to take chances ’cause we had nothing to lose, much like Fox Broadcasting later.


In this era, just to give you the context of time, I had two assistants, one after another: Barry Diller was my executive assistant. He was Len’s — and when Len left, he became my assistant. Some time later, when I put him in charge of movies for television, Michael Eisner became my assistant. We had some pretty good people in a very small department. It was electric! We were all young; we could try anything.


We needed comedies. ‘Bewitched’ was one. We had a couple, but a weakness at ABC was half-hour comedies.


Norman Lear — who was not the Norman Lear that we think of today — had this show that he wanted to do. And it was exciting. It was different. I said to myself, ‘Great idea. Terrific talent. And an urban half-hour comedy.’ We would’ve given anything to have Jackie Gleason in ‘The Honeymooners,’ but CBS had that.


So, we did the first pilot.”


Which — as Leonard Goldberg remembered — didn’t turn out all that well. After he and Martin screened it for the network brass:



“The pilot ended … the lights slowly came up … I got up. We were sitting, Marty Starger and I, in the front row. We turned around … and there was no one in the screening room.


They were all gone. Literally. I looked over at Marty and said,’I don’t think that went that well.’ I had never had that happen in the three years and probably seventy-five, eighty pilots I had made, some of which were pretty bad.


I quickly moved out of the room and down the hall to the elevator, where I met Tom Moore, the president (of ABC). I said to Tom, ‘What’s going on? Where is everybody?’ The elevator doors by now are opening. He stepped in, turned to me, and said ‘We in senior management are going to pretend this pilot never happened. And for your own future, I suggest you do the same.’ At which point the elevator doors closed.”


And — with that — ABC lost out on its chance to air that multiple Emmy Award-winning show, “All in the Family.”



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That’s why I think that every executive at the Alphabet Network should be given a copy of this oral history. So that they can then heed the warnings of industry legends like Carl Reiner and Fred Silverman. Veterans who can perhaps persuade those working in television today that they sometimes need to look past ratings & research.


I mean, just because you have a report on your desk that reads “Pilot Performance: Weak,” which is loaded with comments like “Who cares about people going to the laundromat?” and “None of the supports were particularly liked, and viewers felt that Jerry needed a better backup ensemble. George was negatively viewed as a wimp who was only mildly amusing — viewers said he whined and did not like his relationship with Jerry … Despite the slice-of-life approach, the program was considered only mildly realistic and believable, and many did not identify with the things with which Jerry was involved” … doesn’t mean that you should then pass on the project.


After all, if Brandon Tartikoff had done that in 1989 … The world would have been denied “Seinfeld.” A show that parlayed nothing into a ratings smash.



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Mind you, I don’t know if the lessons presented in Allan Neuwirth’s “They’ll Never Put That on the Air: An Oral History of Taboo-Breaking TV Comedy” will actually be able to help the guys who are currently struggling with “Cavemen.” But what the hey. They’ll probably still enjoy looking at the great caricatures that Glen Hanson created especially for this very entertaining & informative paperback.


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Jim Hill is an entertainment writer who has specialized in covering The Walt Disney Company for nearly 40 years now. Over that time, he has interviewed hundreds of animators, actors, and Imagineers -- many of whom have shared behind-the-scenes stories with Mr. Hill about how the Mouse House really works. In addition to the 4000+ articles Jim has written for the Web, he also co-hosts a trio of popular podcasts: “Disney Dish with Len Testa,” “Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor” and “Marvel US Disney with Aaron Adams.” Mr. Hill makes his home in Southern New Hampshire with his lovely wife Nancy and two obnoxious cats, Ginger & Betty.

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Seward Johnson bronzes add a surreal, artistic touch to NYC’s Garment District

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Greetings from NYC. Nancy and I drove down from New
Hampshire yesterday because we'll be checking out
Disney Consumer Products' annual Holiday Showcase later today.

Anyway … After checking into our hotel (i.e., The Paul.
Which is located down in NYC's NoMad district), we decided to grab some dinner.
Which is how we wound up at the Melt Shop.


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Which is this restaurant that only sells grilled cheese sandwiches.
This comfort food was delicious, but kind of on the heavy side.


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Which is why — given that it was a beautiful summer night
— we'd then try and walk off our meals. We started our stroll down by the Empire
State Building
…


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… and eventually wound up just below Times
Square (right behind where the Waterford Crystal Times Square New
Year's Eve Ball is kept).


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But you know what we discovered en route? Right in the heart
of Manhattan's Garment District
along Broadway between 36th and 41st? This incredibly cool series of life-like
and life-sized sculptures that Seward
Johnson has created.


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And — yes — that is Abraham Lincoln (who seems to have
slipped out of WDW's Hall of Presidents when no one was looking and is now
leading tourists around Times Square). These 18 painted
bronze pieces (which were just installed late this past Sunday night / early
Monday morning) range from the surreal to the all-too-real.


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Some of these pieces look like typical New Yorkers. Like the
business woman planning out her day …


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… the postman delivering the mail …


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… the hot dog vendor working at his cart …


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… the street musician playing for tourists …


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Not to mention the tourists themselves.


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But right alongside the bronze businessmen …


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… and the tired grandmother hauling her groceries home …


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… there were also statues representing people who were
from out-of-town …


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… or — for that matter — out-of-time.


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These were the Seward Johnson pieces that genuinely beguiled. Famous impressionist paintings brought to life in three dimensions.


Note the out-of-period water bottle that some tourist left
behind. Photo by Jim Hill 

Some of them so lifelike that you actually had to pause for
a moment (especially as day gave way to night in the city) and say to yourself
"Is that one of the bronzes? Or just someone pretending to be one of these
bronzes?"

Mind you, for those of you who aren't big fans of the
impressionists …


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… there's also an array of American icons. Among them
Marilyn Monroe …


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… and that farmer couple from Grant Wood's "American
Gothic."


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But for those of you who know your NYC history, it's hard to
beat that piece which recreates Alfred Eisenstaedt's famous photograph of V-J Day in Times Square.


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By the way, a 25-foot-tall version of this particular Seward
Johnson piece ( which — FYI — is entitled "Embracing Peace") will actually
be placed in Times Square for a few days on or around  August 14th to commemorate the 70th
anniversary of Victory Over Japan Day (V-J Day).


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By the way, if you'd like to check these Seward Johnson bronzes in
person (which — it should be noted — are part of the part of the Garment
District Alliance's new public art offering) — you'd best schedule a trip to
the City sometime over the next three months. For these pieces will only be on
display now through September 15th. 

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Wondering what you should “Boldly Go” see at the movies next year? The 2015 Licensing Expo offers you some clues

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Greeting from the 2015 Licensing Expo, which is being held
at the Mandalay Bay
Convention Center in Las
Vegas.


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I have to admit that I enjoy covering the Licensing Expo.
Mostly becomes it allows bloggers & entertainment writers like myself to
get a peek over the horizon. Scope out some of the major motion pictures &
TV shows that today's vertically integrated entertainment conglomerates
(Remember when these companies used to be called movie studios?) will be
sending our way over the next two years or so.


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Take — for example — all of "The Secret Life of
Pets" banners that greeted Expo attendees as they made their way to the
show floor today. I actually got to see some footage from this new Illumination
Entertainment production (which will hit theaters on July 8, 2016) the last time I was in Vegas. Which
was for CinemaCon back in April. And the five or so minutes of film that I viewed
suggested that "The Secret Life of Pets" will be a really funny
animated feature.


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Mind you, Universal Pictures wanted to make sure that Expo
attendees remembered that there was another Illumination Entertainment production
coming-to-a-theater-near-them before "The Secret Life of Pets" (And
that's "Minions," the "Despicable Me" prequel. Which
premieres at the Annecy International Animated Film Festival next week but
won't be screened stateside 'til July 10th of this year). Which is why they had
three minions who were made entirely out of LEGOS loitering out in the lobby.


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And Warner Bros. — because they wanted "Batman v
Superman: Dawn of Justice" to start trending on Twitter today — brought
the Batmobile to Las Vegas.


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Not to mention full-sized macquettes of Batman, Superman and
Wonder Woman. Just so conventioneers could then see what these DC superheroes
would actually look like in this eagerly anticipated, March 25, 2016 release.


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That's the thing that can sometimes be a wee bit frustrating
about the Licensing Expo. It's all about delayed gratification. You'll come
around a corner and see this 100 foot-long ad for "The Peanuts Movie"
and think "Hey, that looks great. I want to see that Blue Sky Studios production
right now." It's only then that you notice the fine print and realize that
"The Peanuts Movie" doesn't actually open in theaters 'til November
6th of this year.


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And fan of Blue Sky's "Ice Age" film franchise are in for an even
longer wait. Given that the latest installment in that top grossing series
doesn't arrive in theaters 'til July
15, 2016.


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Of course, if you're one of those people who needs immediate
gratification when it comes to your entertainment, there was stuff like that to
be found at this year's Licensing Expo. Take — for example — how the WWE
booth was actually shaped like a wrestling ring. Which — I'm guessing — meant
that if the executives of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. didn't like
the offer that you were making, they were then allowed to toss you out over the
top rope, Royal Rumble-style.


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I also have to admit that — as a longtime Star Trek fan —
it was cool to see the enormous Starship Enterprise that hung in place over the
CBS booth. Not to mention getting a glimpse of the official Star Trek 50th
Anniversary logo.


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I was also pleased to see lots of activity in The Jim Henson
Company booth. Which suggests that JHC has actually finally carved out a
post-Muppets identity for itself.


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Likewise for all of us who were getting a little concerned
about DreamWorks Animation (what with all the layoffs & write-downs &
projects that were put into turnaround or outright cancelled last year), it was
nice to see that booth bustling.


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Every so often, you'd come across some people who were
promoting a movie that you weren't entirely sure that you actually wanted to
see (EX: "Angry Birds," which Sony Pictures Entertainment / Columbia
Pictures will be releasing to theaters on May 20, 2016). But then you remembered that Clay Kaytis —
who's this hugely talented former Walt Disney Animation Studios animator — is
riding herd on "Angry Birds" with Fergal Reilly. And you'd think
"Well, if Clay's working on 'Angry Birds,' I'm sure this animated feature
will turn out fine."


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Mind you, there were reminders at this year's Licensing Expo
of great animated features that we're never going to get to see now. I still
can't believe — especially after that brilliant proof-of-concept footage
popped up online last year — that Sony execs decided not to go forward
with  production of Genndy Tartakovsky's
"Popeye" movie.  But that's the
cruel thing about the entertainment business, folks. It will sometime break
your heart.


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And make no mistake about this. The Licensing Expo is all
about business. That point was clearly driven home at this year's show when —
as you walked through the doors of the Mandalay
Bay Convention Center
— the first thing that you saw was the Hasbros Booth. Which was this gleaming,
sleek two story-tall affair full of people who were negotiating deals &
signing contracts for all of the would-be summer blockbusters that have already
announced release dates for 2019 & beyond.


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"But what about The Walt Disney Company?," you
ask. "Weren't they represented on the show floor at this year's Licensing
Expo?" Not really, not. I mean, sure. There were a few companies there hyping
Disney-related products. Take — for example — the Disney Wikkeez people.


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I'm assuming that some Disney Consumer Products exec is
hoping that Wikkeez will eventually become the new Tsum Tsum. But to be blunt,
these little hard plastic figures don't seem to have the same huggable charm
that those stackable plush do. But I've been wrong before. So let's see what
happens with Disney Wikkeez once they start showing up on the shelves of the
Company's North American retail partners.


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And speaking of Disney's retail partners … They were
meeting with Mouse House executives behind closed doors one floor down from the
official show floor for this year's Licensing Expo.


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And the theme for this year's invitation-only Disney shindig? "Timeless
Stories" involving the Disney, Pixar, Marvel & Lucasfilm brands that
would then appeal to "tomorrow's consumer."


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And just to sort of hammer home the idea that Disney is no
longer the Company which cornered the market when it comes to little girls
(i.e., its Disney Princess and Disney Fairies franchises), check out this
wall-sized Star Wars-related image that DCP put up just outside of one of its
many private meeting rooms. "See?," this carefully crafted photo
screams. "It isn't just little boys who want to wield the Force. Little
girls also want to grow up and be Lords of the Sith."


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One final, kind-of-ironic note: According to this banner,
Paramount Pictures will be releasing a movie called "Amusement Park"
to theaters sometime in 2017.  


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Well, given all the "Blackfish" -related issues
that have been dogged SeaWorld Parks & Entertainment over the past two years, I'm
just hoping that they'll still be in the amusement park business come 2017.

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It takes more than three circles to craft a Classic version of Mickey Mouse

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You know what Mickey Mouse looks like, right? Little guy,
big ears?

Truth be told, Disney's corporate symbol has a lot of
different looks. If Mickey's interacting with Guests at Disneyland
Park (especially this summer, when
the Happiest Place on Earth
is celebrating its 60th anniversary), he looks & dresses like this.


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Or when he's appearing in one of those Emmy Award-winning shorts that Disney
Television Animation has produced (EX: "Bronco Busted," which debuts
on the Disney Channel tonight at 8 p.m. ET / PT), Mickey is drawn in a such a
way that he looks hip, cool, edgy & retro all at the same time.


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Looking ahead to 2017 now, when Disney Junior rolls out "Mickey and the
Roadster Racers," this brand-new animated series will feature a sportier version
of Disney's corporate symbol. One that Mouse House managers hope will persuade
preschool boys to more fully embrace this now 86 year-old character.


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That's what most people don't realize about the Mouse. The
Walt Disney Company deliberately tailors Mickey's look, even his style of
movement, depending on what sort of project / production he's appearing in.

Take — for example — Disney
California Adventure
Park's "World of Color:
Celebrate!" Because Disney's main mouse would be co-hosting this new
nighttime lagoon show with ace emcee Neil Patrick Harris, Eric Goldberg really had
to step up Mickey's game. Which is why this master Disney animator created
several minutes of all-new Mouse animation which then showed that Mickey was
just as skilled a showman as Neil was.


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Better yet, let's take a look at what the folks at Avalanche Studios just went
through as they attempted to create a Classic version of Mickey & Minnie.
One that would then allow this popular pair to become part of Disney Infinity
3.0.

"I won't lie to you. We were under a lot of pressure to
get the look of this particular version of Mickey — he's called Red Pants
Mickey around here — just right," said Jeff Bunker, the VP of Art
Development at Avalanche Studios, during a recent phone interview. "When
we brought Sorcerer Mickey into Disney Infinity 1.0 back in January of 2014,
that one was relatively easy because … Well, everyone knows what Mickey Mouse
looked like when he appeared in 'Fantasia.' "


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"But this time around, we were being asked to design
THE Mickey & Minnie," Bunker continued. "And given that these Classic
Disney characters have been around in various different forms for the better
part of the last century … Well, which look was the right look?"

Which is why Jeff and his team at Avalanche Studios began watching hours &
hours of Mickey Mouse shorts. As they tried to get a handle on which look would
work best for these characters in Disney Infinity 3.0.


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"And we went all the way back to the very start of Mickey's career. We began
with 'Steamboat Willie' and then watched all of those black & white Mickey shorts
that Walt made back in the late 1920s & early 1930s. From there, we
transitioned to his Technicolor shorts. Which is when Mickey went from being
this pie-eyed, really feisty character to more of a well-behaved leading
man," Bunker recalled. "We then finished out our Mouse marathon by
watching all of those new Mickey shorts that Paul Rudish & his team have
been creating for Disney Television Animation. Those cartoons really recapture
a lot of the spirit and wild slapstick fun that Mickey's early, black &
white shorts had."

But given that the specific assignment that Avalanche Studios had been handed
was to create the most appealing looking, likeable version of Mickey Mouse
possible … In the end, Jeff and his team wound up borrowing bits & pieces
from a lot of different versions of the world's most famous mouse. So that
Classic Mickey would then look & move in a way that best fit the sort of
gameplay which people would soon be able to experience with Disney Infinity
3.0.


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"That — in a lot of ways — was actually the toughest
part of the Classic Mickey design project. You have to remember that one of the
key creative conceits of  Disney Infinity
is that all the characters which appear in this game are toys," Bunker
stated. "Okay. So they're beautifully detailed, highly stylized toy
versions of beloved Disney, Pixar, Marvel & Lucasfilm characters. But
they're still supposed to be toys. So our Classic versions of Mickey &
Minnie have the same sort of thickness & sturdiness to them that toys have.
So that they'll then be able to fit right in with all of the rest of the
characters that Avalanche Studios had previously designed for Disney Infinity."

And then there was the matter of coming up with just the
right pose for Classic Mickey & Minnie. Which — to hear Jeff tell the
story — involved input from a lot of Disney upper management.


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"Everyone within the Company seemed to have an opinion
about how Mickey & Minnie should be posed. More to the point, if you Google
Mickey, you then discover that there are literally thousands of poses out there
for these two. Though — truth be told — a lot of those kind of play off the
way Mickey poses when he's being Disney's corporate symbol," Bunker said.
"But what I was most concerned about was that Mickey's pose had to work
with Minnie's pose. Because we were bringing the Classic versions of these
characters up into Disney Infinity 3.0 at the exact same time. And we wanted to
make sure — especially for those fans who like to put their Disney Infinity
figures on display — that Mickey's pose would then complement Minnie.

Which is why Jeff & the crew at Avalanche Studios
decided — when it came to Classic Mickey & Minnie's pose — that they
should go all the way back to the beginning. Which is why these two Disney icons
are sculpted in such a way that it almost seems as though you're witnessing the
very first time Mickey set eyes on Minnie.


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"And what was really great about that was — as soon as
we began showing people within the Company this pose — everyone at Disney
quickly got on board with the idea. I mean, the Classic Mickey that we sculpted
for Disney Infinity 3.0 is clearly a very playful, spunky character. But at the
same time, he's obviously got eyes for Minnie," Bunker concluded. "So
in the end, we were able to come up with Classic versions of these characters
that will work well within the creative confines of Disney Infinity 3.0 but at
the same time please those Disney fans who just collect these figures because
they like the way the Disney Infinity characters look."

So now that this particular design project is over, does
Jeff regret that Mouse House upper management was so hands-on when it came to
making sure that the Classic versions of Mickey & Minnie were specifically
tailored to fit the look & style of gameplay found in Disney Infinity 3.0?


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"To be blunt, we go through this every time we add a new character to the
game. The folks at Lucasfilm were just as hands-on when we were designing the
versions of Darth Vader and Yoda that will also soon be appearing in Disney
Infinity 3.0," Bunker laughed. "So in the end, if the character's
creators AND the fans are happy, then I'm happy."

This article was originally posted on the Huffington Post's Entertainment page on Tuesday, June 9, 2015

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