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At the end of a pretty amazing week of Disney-related news, Jim Hill shares the latest Roy/Stanley/Michael/Pixar/Comcast theories … then wonders why he’s suddenly feeling sorry for Disney’s embattled CEO.



Welcome to the house of mirrors. Disneyana’s equivalent of the grassy knoll. The place where all the conspiracy theories surrounding this whole Roy Disney / Stanley Gold / Michael Eisner / Steve Jobs / Pixar and Comcast story come together to form … well, some pretty fascinating yarns.

Like what? Well, let’s start with the theory that — now that Comcast has launched a hostile takeover bid for the Walt Disney Company — that Roy and Stanley are really out in the cold here. That — since Brian Roberts and Steve Burke don’t really need Shamrock’s help to close this deal — that Disney and Gold are just sh*t out of luck now.

Which I actually bought into for a while yesterday morning. I even felt bad for Roy and Stanley for a short time. Thinking what a shame it was that all their hard work was going to result in someone else scooping up the Walt Disney Company.

But then someone reminded me of Disney’s resignation letter of November 30th. Particularly the part where Roy listed Michael Eisner’s shortcomings. And Item #6 on that list was:

Your failure to establish and build constructive relationships with creative partners, especially Pixar, Miramax, and the cable companies distributing our products.

“… and the cable companies distributing our products”?! You’ve got to be kidding me.

I mean, Roy specifically mentions “cable companies” in his resignation letter. And then — 10 weeks later — Comcast suddenly makes a move on the Mouse House … and we’re all supposed to think that this is just a co-incidence?

And let’s talk about the timing of that move. Was it really such a co-incidence that Burke and Roberts chose to hold their Comcast-is-out-to-acquire-the-Walt-Disney-Company press conference this past Wednesday morning? Just hours before Michael Eisner was scheduled to appear in Orlando to discuss his company’s quarterly earnings with investment analysts.

Now, I don’t want to sound like a suspicious sort. But — if you really wanted to hurt Disney’s CEO, if you really wanted to cut Eisner’s legs out from under him in front of the investment community — what time would have been BETTER to stage that Comcast press conference? Can you think of one? Because I can’t.

Yeah, I’m starting to get a little concerned about the timing of things here. How Steve Jobs’ decision to abruptly break off Pixar’s contract extension talks with the Walt Disney Company came on January 29th . Which co-incidentally generated a lot of positive press for Roy and Stanley’s effort to oust Michael. This seemingly isolated event was then followed — several days later — by Pixar’s quarterly earnings conference call, where Jobs repeatedly verbally beat Eisner up. Which — of course — also furthered Disney and Gold’s efforts as well as continuing to weaken Disney’s CEO.

So now we have Michael Eisner, bloodied but still unbowed, heading into Disney’s quarterly earnings conference … Only to supposedly be blind-sided by Comcast’s surprise takeover bid.

Of course, there are those that say that this wasn’t a surprise, That Eisner knew that this Comcast deal was in the works. As I mentioned in Wednesday’s “The One That Got Away”, there are a lot of people out there who genuinely believe that it was Michael who first initiated talks with the Philadelphia-based corporation. But that Disney’s CEO was only looking to set up an alliance with Comcast. Something that he could talk up at Disney’s upcoming shareholders meeting. NOT an acquisition.

So what happened? Well, the story that I keep hearing is that — on the heels of the Pixar contract extension talks going “Ker-FLOOM!” — the folks at Comcast suddenly realized that there was blood in the water. That Eisner was now stuck with a fairly weak hand. And that — rather than just form some sort of half-assed alliance with the Mouse — Comcast could actually take Mickey’s entire house if they opted to move more aggressively.

So — in this scenario — Michael Eisner actually played an active hand in his own downfall. He initiated conversations with Comcast … only to have Steve Burke and Brian Roberts turn the tables on him.

Ah, it’s really difficult to keep track of all this conspiracy theories. They tend to bleed into one another, wander all over the map. Like — take, for instance — the rumor that’s now circulating about the reason that Steve Jobs REALLY broke off contract extension talks with the Walt Disney Company.

According to this version of the story, Steve supposedly somehow got wind that someone was about to begin a hostile takeover attempt on the Mouse House. Quickly realizing that — if he opted to renew his studio’s deal with Disney — Pixar would invariably get caught up in all that craziness. Which is why Steve allegedly decided that a hasty retreat was the best defense. Which is why (the way I hear it, anyway) Pixar Animation Studio suddenly walked away from the table … not because Jobs really wanted to hurt Eisner. But — rather — to avoid having to deal with the hassle associated with a hostile takeover attempt.

Of course, the really interesting part of this theory is — once Disney fends off Comcast and/or gets swallowed by the cable giant — Steve Jobs will then reportedly return to the bargaining table. And — since he will be the only one rested and refreshed, while the other participants will be completely exhausted from having to deal with that hostile takeover attempt — Steve will be able to get an even better deal out of the Walt Disney Company.

Not a bad idea, don’t you agree? Of course, there are those out there that suggest that the only reason that Steve Jobs’ people are supposedly putting this story out there now is because Steve’s said to be uncomfortable with the idea that others think that he’s been colluding with Roy and Stanley.

Yeah, a lot of people (myself included) are starting to get concerned with stuff like that. How we find it troubling that the message that’s coming out of the Shamrock Company sounds suspiciously similar to the stuff coming out of the Pixar camp. Which — perhaps not-so-co-incidentally — sounds an awful lot like what the guys at Comcast are saying. Like everyone’s reading off of the same sheet of music.

So what do I think? Have these three teams actually been talking with one another? Perhaps co-ordinating efforts so that they’d have maximum impact on Michael Eisner?

Well, I have to admit that I’m troubled by the consistency of the language that Shamrock and Pixar and Comcast have been using. How all three of these companies continue to carp about “quality,” and how they make it sound as if Michael Eisner were the cause of absolutely everything that’s gone wrong at the Mouse House.

And I’m particularly bothered by the fact that — when I brought up the Comcast rumor with a member of Shamrock’s senior staff two weeks ago — I was told to ignore that story. That it was just idle internet chatter.

So where does this leave us? In a rather uncomfortable spot, I fear. I mean, I want to keep rooting for Roy and Stanley. ‘Cause I really do think that it’s time for Michael Eisner to go. Not because he’s a bad guy or anything like that. But just because Michael’s been on the job for — what? — 19 years now. And that’s an awfully long time to serve as the head of a major media operation.

So I think that Michael should get out while the getting’s good. I mean, it’s clear that the investment community has turned against him.

How do I know this? Well, take a look at the two images below. Which both ran this week in the Wall Street Journal.

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The youngish looking image of Michael on the right ran in Monday’s Wall Street Journal as an illustration for Bruce Orwall’s “Disney Board Hits Back at Dissidents.” That haggard looking picture of Disney’s CEO on the left? That ran in the Journal yesterday, as an illustration of Bruce Orwall and Peter Grant’s front page story; “Disney, Struggling to Regain Glory, Gets $48.7 Billion Bid from Comcast.”

Doesn’t this comparison make it look like Michael Eisner has aged 20 years overnight? Yeah … But it’s worse than that. The REAL reason that the Wall Street Journal opted to go with the image of the older looking Eisner is that the word on the street is that Michael on his way out. So the Journal no longer felt like it HAD TO run the younger, more flattering looking image of Eisner. That the paper could now use an illustration that showed Michael Eisner as he really was today: bald and somewhat worn looking.

It’s stuff like this — and watching Eisner get blindsided like he did back on Wednesday — that actually make me feel sort of bad for Michael. I mean, I know the guy kind of had it coming. But to have so many enemies suddenly come out of the shadows. And to have this ouster effort to come across as so calculated, so orchestrated (According to one Disney wag: “The only way that this ‘Oust Eisner’ effort could be any more orchestrated was if Roy and Stanley sprang for a tympani.”).

I really want to believe that I’m supporting the good guys here. But — when you spend time in the house of mirrors (as I have today) — you sometimes get a glimpse of your own reflection … and you may not like what you see.

Your thoughts?

Jim Hill is an entertainment writer who has specialized in covering The Walt Disney Company for nearly 40 years now. Over that time, he has interviewed hundreds of animators, actors, and Imagineers -- many of whom have shared behind-the-scenes stories with Mr. Hill about how the Mouse House really works. In addition to the 4000+ articles Jim has written for the Web, he also co-hosts a trio of popular podcasts: “Disney Dish with Len Testa,” “Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor” and “Marvel US Disney with Aaron Adams.” Mr. Hill makes his home in Southern New Hampshire with his lovely wife Nancy and two obnoxious cats, Ginger & Betty.

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Jens Dahlmann of LongHorn Steakhouse has lots of great tips when it comes to grilling



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Sure, for some folks, the Fourth of July is all about fireworks. But for the 75% of all Americans who own a grill or a smoker, the Fourth is our Nation’s No. 1 holiday when it comes to grilling. Which is why 3 out of 4 of those folks will spend some time outside today working over a fire.

But here’s the thing: Though 14 million Americans can cook a steak with confidence because they actually grill something every week, the rest of us – because we use our grill or smoker so infrequently … Well, let’s just say that we have no chops when it comes to dealing with chops (pork, veal or otherwise).

So what’s a backyard chef supposed to in a situation like this when there’s so much at steak … er … stake? Turn to someone who really knows their way around a grill for advice. People like Jens Dahlmann, the Vice President and Corporate Executive Chef for Darden Restaurant’s LongHorn Steakhouse brand.

Given that Jens’ father & grandfather were chefs, this is a guy who literally grew up in a kitchen. In his teens & twenties, Dahlmann worked in hotels & restaurants all over Switzerland & Germany. Once he was classically trained in the culinary arts, Jens then  jumped ship. Well, started working on cruise ships, I mean.

Anyway … While working on Cunard’s Sea Goddess, Dahlmann met Sirio Maccioni, the founder of Le Cirque 2000. Sirio was so impressed with Jens’ skills in the kitchen that he offered him the opportunity to become sous-chef at this New York landmark. After four years of working in Manhattan, Dahlmann then headed south to become executive chef at Palm Beach’s prestigious Café L’Europe.

Jens Dahlmann back during his Disney World days

And once Jens began wowing foodies in Florida, it wasn’t all that long ’til the Mouse came a-calling. Mickey wanted Dahlmann to shake things up in the kitchen over at WDW’s Flying Fish Café. And he did such a good job with that Disney’s Boardwalk eatery the next thing Jens knew, he was then being asked to work his magic with the menu at the Contemporary Resort’s California Grill.

From there, Dahlmann had a relatively meteoric rise at the Mouse House. Once he became Epcot’s Food & Beverage general manager, it was only a matter of time before he wound up as the executive chef in charge of this theme park’s annual International Food & Wine Festival. Which – under Jens’ guidance – experienced some truly explosive growth.

“When I took on Food & Wine, that festival was only 35 days long and had gross revenues of just $5.5 million. When I left Disney in 2016, Food & Wine was now over 50 days long and that festival had gross revenues of $22 million,” Dahlmann admitted during a recent sit-down. “I honestly loved those 13 years I spent at Disney. When I was working there, I learned so much because I was really cooking for America.”

And it was exactly that sort of experience & expertise that Darden wanted to tap into when they lured Jens away from Mickey last year to become LongHorn Steakhouse’s new Vice President and Corporate Executive Chef. But today … Well, Dahlmann is offering tips to those of us who are thinking about cooking steak tips for the Fourth.

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“When you’re planning on grilling this holiday, if you’re looking for a successful result, the obvious place to start is with the quality of the meat you plan on cooking for your friends & family. If you want the best results here, don’t be cheap when you go shopping. Spend the money necessary for a fresh filet or a New York strip. Better yet a Ribeye, a nice thick one with good marbling. Because when you look at the marbling on a steak, that’s where all the flavor happens,” Jens explained. “That said, you always have to remember that — the higher you go with the quality of your meat — the less time you’re going to want that piece of meat to spend on the grill.”

And speaking of cooking … Before you even get started here, Jens suggests that you first take the time to check over all of your grilling equipment. Making sure that the grill itself is first scraped clean & then properly oiled before you then turn up the heat.

“If you’re working with a dirty grill, when you go to turn your meat, it may wind up sticking to the grill. Or maybe those spices that you’ve just so carefully coated your steak with will wind up sticking to the grill, rather than your meat,” Dahlmann continued. “Which is why it’s always worth it to spend a few minutes prior to firing up your grill properly cleaning & oiling it.”

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And speaking of heat … Again, before you officially get started grilling here, Jens says that it’s crucial to check your temperature gauges. Make sure that your char grill is set at 550 (so that it can then properly handle the thicker cuts of meat) and your flattop is set at 425 (so it can properly sear thinner pieces of meat).

Okay. Once you’ve bought the right cuts of quality meat, properly cleaned & oiled your grill, and then made sure that everything’s set at the right temperature (“If you can only stand to hold your hand directly over the grill for two or three seconds, that’s the right amount of heat,” Dahlmann said), it’s now time to season your steaks.

“Don’t be afraid to be bold here. You can’t be shy when it comes to seasoning your meat. You want to give it a nice coating. Largely because — if you’re using a char grill — a lot of that seasoning is just going to fall off anyway,” Jens stated. “It’s up to you to decide what sort of seasoning you want to use here. Even just some salt & pepper will enhance a steak’s flavor.”

Then – according to Dahlmann – comes the really tough part. Which is placing your meat on the grill and then fighting the urge to flip it too early or too often.

“The biggest mistake that a lot of amateur cooks make is that they flip the steak too many times. The real key to a well-cooked piece of meat is just let it be, “Jens insisted. “Of course, if you’re serving different cuts of meat at your Fourth of July feast, you always want to put your biggest thickest steak on the grill first. If you’re also cooking a New York Strip, you want to put that one on a few minutes later. But after that, just let the grill do its job and flip your meat a total of three or four times, once every three minutes or so.”

Of course, the last thing you want to do is overcook a quality piece of meat. Which is why Dahlmann suggests that – when it comes to grilling steaks – if you’re going to err, err on the side of undercooking.

“You can always put a piece of meat back on the grill if it’s slightly undercooked. When you over-cook something, all you can do then is start over with a brand-new piece of meat,” Jens said. “Just be sure that you’re using the correct cut of meat for the cooking result you’re aiming for. If someone wants a rare or medium rare steak, you should go with a thicker cut of steak. If one of your guests wants their steak cooked medium or well, it’s best to start with a thinner cut of meat.”

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As you can see, the folks at Longhorn take grilling steaks seriously. How seriously? Just last week at Darden Corporate Headquarters in Orlando, seven of these brand’s top grill masters (who – after weeks of regional competitions – had been culled from the 491 restaurants that make up this chain) competed for a $10,000 prize in the Company’s second annual Steak Master Series. And Dahlmann was one of the people who stood in Darden’s test kitchens, watching like a hawk as each of the contestants struggled to prepare six different dishes in just 20 minutes according to Longhorn Steakhouse’s exacting standards.

“I love that Darden does this. Recognizing the best of the best who work this restaurant,” Jens concluded. “We have a lot of people here who are incredibly knowledgeable & passionate when it comes to grilling.”

Speaking of which … If today’s story doesn’t include the exact piece of info that you need to properly grill that T-bone, just whip out your iPhone & text GRILL to 55702. Or – better yet – visit prior to firing up your grill or smoker later today. 

This article was originally published by the Huffington Post on Tuesday, July 4, 2017

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Brattleboro’s Strolling of the Heifers is a sincere if somewhat surreal way to spend a summer’s day in Vermont



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Some people travel halfway ‘around the planet so that they can then experience the excitement of the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona. If you’re more of a Slow Living enthusiast (as I am), then perhaps you should amble to Brattleboro, VT. Where – over the first weekend in June – you can then join a herd of cow enthusiasts at the annual Strolling of the Heifers.

Now in its 16th year, this three-day long event typically gets underway on Friday night in June with a combination block party / gallery walk. But then – come Saturday morning – Main Street in Brattleboro is lined with thousands of bovine fans.

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They’ve staked out primo viewing spots and set up camp chairs hours ahead of time. Just so these folks can then have a front row seat as this year’s crop of calves (which all come from local farms & 4-H clubs) are paraded through the streets.

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Viewed from curbside, Strolling of the Heifers is kind of this weird melding of a sincere small town celebration and Pasadena’s Doo Dah Parade. Meaning that – for every entry that actually acknowledged this year’s theme (i.e. “Dance to the Moosic”) — …

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… there was something completely random, like this parade’s synchronized shopping cart unit.

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And for every piece of authentic Americana (EX: That collection of antique John Deere tractors that came chugging through the city) …

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… there was something silly. Like – say – a woman dressed as a Holstein pushing a baby stroller through the streets. And riding in that stroller was a pig dressed in a tutu.

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And given that this event was being staged in the Green Mountain State & all … Well, does it really surprise you to learn that — among the groups that marched in this year’s Strolling of the Heifers – was a group of eco-friendly folks who, with their  chants of “We’re Number One !,” tried to persuade people along the parade route not to flush the toilet after they pee. Because – as it turns out – urine can be turned into fertilizer.

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And speaking of fertilizer … At the tail end of the parade, there was a group of dedicated volunteers who were dealing with what came out of the tail end of all those cows.

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This year’s Strolling of the Heifers concluded at the Brattleboro town common. Where event attendees could then get a closer look at some of the featured units in this year’s parade…

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… or perhaps even pet a few of the participants.

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But as for the 90+ calves who took part in the 2017 edition of Strolling of the Heifers, once they reached the town common, it was now time for a nosh or a nap.

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Elsewhere on the common, keeping with this year’s “Dance to the Moosic” theme, various musical groups performed in & around the gazebo throughout the afternoon.

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While just across the way – keeping with Brattleboro’s tradition of showcasing the various artisans who live & work in the local community – some pretty funky pieces were on display at the Slow Living Exposition.

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All in all, attending Strolling of the Heifers is a somewhat surreal but still very pleasant way to spend a summer’s day in Vermont. And that’s no bull.

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Well, that could be a bull. To be honest, what with the wig & all, it’s kind of hard to tell. 

This article was originally published by the Huffington Post on Sunday, June 4, 2017

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Looking to make an authentic Irish meal for Saint Patrick’s Day? If so, then chef Kevin Dundon says not to cook corned beef & cabbage



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Let’s at least start on a positive note: Celebrated chef, author & TV personality Kevin Dundon – the man that Tourism Ireland has repeatedly chosen as the Face of Irish Food – loves a lot of what happens in the United States on March 17th.

“I mean, look at what they do in Chicago on Saint Patrick’s Day. They toss all of this vegetable-based dye into the Chicago River and then paint it green for a day. That’s terrific,” Kevin said.

But then when it comes to what many Americans eat & drink on St. Paddy’s Day (i.e., a big plate of corned beef and cabbage. Which is then washed down with a mug of green beer) … Well, that’s where Dundon has to draw the line.

Irish celebrity chef Kevin Dundon displays a traditional Irish loin of bacon with Colcannon potatoes and a Dunbrody Kiss chocolate dessert. Photo by Tom Burton. Copyright Disney Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved

“Green beer? No real Irishman would be caught dead drinking that stuff,” Kevin insists. “And as for eating corned beef & cabbage … That’s not actually authentic Irish fare either. Bacon and cabbage? Sure. But corned beef & cabbage was something that the Irish only began eating after they’d come to the States to escape the Famine. And even then these Irish-Americans only began serving corned beef & cabbage to their friends & family because they had to make do with the ingredients that were available to them at that time.”

And thus begins the strange tale of how corned beef & cabbage came to be associated with the North American celebration of Saint Patrick’s Day celebration. Because – according to Dundon – beef just wasn’t all that big a part of the Irish diet back in the 19th century.

To explain: Back in the Old Country, cattle – while they were obviously highly prized for the milk & cheese that they produced – were also beasts of burden. Meaning that they were often used for ploughing the fields or for hauling heavy loads. Which is why – back then — these animals were rarely slaughtered when they were still young & healthy. If anything, land owners liked to put a herd of cattle on display out in one of their pastures because that was then a sign to their neighbors that this farm was prosperous.

“Whereas pork … Well, everybody raised pigs back then. Which is why pork was a staple of the Irish diet rather than beef,” Dundon continued.

So if that’s what people actually ate back in the Old Country, how then did corned beef & cabbage come to be so strongly associated with Saint Patrick’s Day in the States.? That largely had to do with where the Irish wound up living after they arrived in the New World.

“When the Irish first arrived in America following the Great Famine, a lot of them wound up living in the inner city right alongside the Germans & the Jews, who were also recent immigrants to the States. And while that farm-fresh pork that the Irish loved wasn’t readily available, there was brisket. Which the Irish could then cure by first covering this piece of meat with corn kernel-sized pieces of rock salt – that’s how it came to be called corned beef. Because of the sizes of the pieces of rock salt that were used in the curing process – and then placing all that in a pot of water with other spices to soak for a few days.”

And as for the cabbage portion of corned beef & cabbage … Well, according to Kevin, in addition to buying their meat from the kosher delis in their neighborhood, the Irish would also frequent the stores that the German community shopped in. Where – thanks to their love of sauerkraut (i.e., pickled cabbage) – there was always a ready supply of cabbage to be had.

“So when you get right down to it, it was the American melting pot that led to corned beef & cabbage being found in the Irish-American cooking pot,” Dundon continued. “Since they couldn’t find or didn’t have easy access to the exact same ingredients that they had back in Ireland, Irish-Americans made do with what they could find in the immediate vicinity. And what they made was admittedly tasty. But it’s not actually authentic Irish fare.”

Mind you, what Kevin serves at Raglan Road Irish Pub and Restaurant at Disney Springs (which – FYI – Orlando Magazine voted as the area’s best restaurant back in 2014) is nothing if not authentic. Dundon and his team at this acclaimed gastropub pride themselves on making traditional Irish fare and then contemporized it.

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“Take – for example – what we serve here instead of corned beef & cabbage. Again, because it was pork – rather than beef – that was the true staple of the Irish diet back then, what we offer instead is a loin of bacon that has been glazed with Irish Mist. That then comes with colcannon potatoes. Which is this traditional Irish dish that’s made up of mashed potato that have had some cabbage & bacon mixed through it,” Kevin enthused. “This heavenly ham – that’s what we actually call this traditional Irish dish at Raglan Road, Kevin’s Heavenly Ham – also includes some savory cabbage with a parsley cream sauce as well as a raisin cider jus. It’s simple food. But because of the basic ingredients – and that’s the real secret of Irish cuisine. That our ingredients are so strong – the flavors just pop off the plate.”

Which brings us to the real challenge that Dundon and the Raglan Road team face every day. Making sure that they actually have all of the ingredients necessary to make this traditional-yet-contemporized Irish fare to those folks who frequent this Walt Disney World favorite.

“Take – for example – the fish we serve here. We only used cold water fish. Salmon, mussels and haddock that have been hauled out of the Atlantic, the ocean that America and Ireland share,” Kevin stated. “Not that there’s anything wrong with warm water fish. It’s just that … Well, it doesn’t have the same structure. It’s a softer fish, which doesn’t really fit the parameters of Irish cuisine. And if you’re going to serve authentic food, you have to be this dedicated when it comes to sourcing your ingredients.

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And if you’re thinking of perhaps trying to serve an authentic Irish meal this year, rather than once again serving corned beef & cabbage at your Saint Patrick’s Day Feast … Well, back in September of last year, Mitchell Beazley published “The Raglan Road Cookbook: Inside America’s Favorite Irish Pub.” This 296-page hardcover not only includes the recipe for Kevin’s Heavenly Ham but also it tells the tale of how this now-world-renown restaurant wound up being built in Orlando.

On the other hand, if you happen to have to the luck of the Irish and are actually down at The Walt Disney World Resort right now, it’s worth noting that Raglan Road is right in the middle of its Mighty St. Patrick’s Day Festival. This four day-long event – which includes Irish bands and professional dancers – stretches through Sunday night. And in addition to all that authentic Irish fare that Dundon and his team are cooking up, you also sample the fine selection of beers & cocktails that this establishment’s four distinct antique bars (each of which are more than 130 years old and were imported directly from Ireland) will be serving. Just – As ucht Dé (That’s “For God’s Sake” in Gaelic) – don’t make the mistake of asking the bartender there for a mug of green beer.

“Why would anyone willingly drink something like that?,” Dundon laughed. “I mean, just imagine what their washroom will look like the morning after.”

This article was originally published by the Huffington Post on Friday, March 17, 2017

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