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Why For the DCA renewal project may be a lot more difficult (more importantly, a lot more expensive) than you might think

Jim Hill returns with even more answers to your Disney-related questions. This time around, he follows up on last week’s “Why For” column. Offering additional information as to why the coming overhaul of California Adventure may be one incredibly complicated construction project

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In response to last week’s “Why For,” Lou P. writes in to say:



Your latest column just doesn’t make any sense to me. Back in the earlier 1990s, the Imagineers were given $1.4 billion and told to do something spectacular with Disneyland‘s old parking lot. Working with that limited amount of money, they were then able to build the Disney’s California Adventure theme park, the Grand Californian Hotel as well as Downtown Disney.


So now the Imagineers have been given $1.2 billion and are being told to retool DCA. Given how far WDI was able to stretch virtually the same amount of money the last time around, I don’t understand why you’re now being so downbeat about the prospects of California Adventure revival project. Surely some good will come from the Walt Disney Company pouring over a billion dollars into this troubled theme park.



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Dear Lou P.


First of all, I don’t see myself as being downbeat when it comes to WDI’s DCA revival. I’m just trying to be realistic here. More importantly, I’m trying to set some realistic expectations for JHM readers about what the Imagineers will be able to do (And — more importantly — will NOT be able to do) with $1.2 billion over the next 10 years.


Secondly, your e-mail actually touches on one of the biggest problems that Bob Weis and his California Adventure redevelopment team are facing right now. In that it is far easier to turn an empty parking lot into a theme park than it is to build up, over & around a previously existing set of rides, shows and attractions. As anyone who has ever worked in construction will tell you, retrofits can get expensive fast.


Don’t believe me? Okay. Then let’s take a look at the $30 million that WDI spent in 2005 to convert DCA’s defunct “Superstar Limo” dark ride into “Monsters, Inc. Mike and Sulley to the Rescue!” Or — better yet — the rumored $150 million that the Imagineers had to spend in order to pull Disneyland’s old submarine fleet out of mothballs and then convert this long-closed Tomorrowland attraction into the “Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage.”



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Now keep in mind that Weis is supposedly under specific orders to use as much of the pre-existing theme park as he possibly can. So in a lot of these cases, you’re going to see Bob & his boys strip standing DCA buildings down to their bare steel. So that they can then build brand-new rides, shows or attractions right on top of the skeletons of those old structures.


This type of construction (While it may have minimal impact on DCA’s previously existing infrastructure) will be incredibly costly. And did I mention that the suits back in the Team Disney Anaheim building want to keep as much of California Adventure open as possible while Weis and his design / construction team are completely reinventing this theme park from within?


Speaking of keeping things open … Disneyland Resort managers want this soon-to-get-underway DCA redo project to have next-to-no impact on the guests staying at the Grand Californian. After all, people pay top dollar to get a spectacular view of the Disneyland Resort‘s newest theme park (Not to mention their exclusive back door access to DCA). So Grand Cal managers don’t want any construction cranes standing on site for months at a time, mucking up their hotel’s view.



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And let’s not forget about the Monorail. One of the key selling points of the Disneyland Hotel is that this resort features a future-that-never-was transportation system that zooms its patrons (At a not-so-astounding 10-35 MPH) right into the heart of Tomorrowland. Thereby giving Disneyland Hotel guests the jump on all of the other folks who are visiting “The Happiest Place on Earth” that day. So whatever Bob & the guys from Glendale are planning on doing at DCA, it has to have a minimal impact on the Monorail. Otherwise WDI is going to be creating a lot of heartache for the people who operate the Disneyland Hotel.


You getting a sense yet, Lou, of all of the logistical problems that Weis and his team are having to deal with? This redo / retheming project is one very complicated set of dominoes that has to fall in just the right way in order to limit the negative impact that all this deconstruction / reconstruction work will have on the Disneyland Resort, both from an operations as well as a guest experience point-of-view. Which more than likely means that a lot of this work will have to be done after-hours by someone who’s then being paid triple overtime pay.


Okay. Taking all of this new information into account, do you now understand why this $1.2 billion may not go as far as Disneyana fans originally thought it hoped? Given how much of this money will actually have to be spent on issues that are totally unrelated to show (i.e. Construction fencing, on-site demolition, the clearing of debris, rewiring, etc. ), those of you who are now expecting Tokyo DisneySea II may be in for a bit of a disappointment.



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Look. There’s no two ways about it. What Bob Weis and his DCA urban renewal team are about to attempt is going to be extremely difficult, very time consuming and prohibitively expensive. And those of you who are now picturing — once all of this work is completed in 2017 — a park that’s bulging with state-of-the-art, supremely themed, hyper-detailed E-Tickets just aren’t being realistic. Because the $1.2 billion that’s been budgeted for this project will only go so far.


Mind you, what we’ll end up with will be a vastly improved DCA. One that will now tell a semi-coherent story as well as feature a full day’s worth of entertainment. But — that said — California Adventure still won’t be as good as Disneyland is.


Which is perfectly understandable. Given that (When all of this work is completed in 2017), Disneyland will be 62 years-old while DCA will only be 16 years-old. It’s going to take another few decades worth of construction — with lots of new rides, shows and attractions being added & then removed from California Adventure’s line-up — before that theme park finally becomes a worthy companion for “The Happiest Place on Earth.”



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Of course, in today’s instant-messaging culture, where people want everything right now … I know that this message of …



A) $1.2 billion isn’t going to go as far as Disneyana fans originally thought it would, and


B) We’re still decades away from DCA being as good as Disneyland is today


… isn’t going to play all that well with Disneyana fans. But I guess that’s what comes of being the online equivalent of a killjoy. Being the guy who brings up reality whenever everyone else wants to talk about Fantasyland.



 Photo courtesy of Jeff Lange


Speaking of the more down-to-earth aspects of this project … You want proof that $1.2 billion isn’t going to enough to cover the complete overhaul of California Adventure. Okay, then. Then let’s talk about the budget for this redo project that the Imagineers originally asked for. Which was $1.7 billion.


“Why $1.7 billion?,” you ask. Because Weis and his team knew going into this California Adventure overhaul that there were lots of infrastructure / back-of-the-house issues that had to be dealt with. Which were in addition to all of the new rides, shows and attractions that DCA so desperately needed. And $1.7 billion would give Bob & his boys just about everything that they needed in order to address both the show as well as the non-show related aspects of this project.


But Disney’s Board of Directors balked at that $1.7 billion price tag. And only after much negotiation did they agree to give WDI $1.2 billion for the California Adventure overhaul. So because that $500 million has been cut out of the budget that was originally proposed for the DCA redo project … Well, Weis and his team will now have to be that much more creative. Carefully pick and choose what gets built where.



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Of course, once the revamped version of DCA opens and meets with public approval, Bob is hoping that Disney’s Board of Directors will then agree to pony up that additional $500 million. But that may take ’til 2022 – 2027 to actually happen.


“Why will Weis have to wait ’til then?,” you query. Because once Phase One of California Adventure’s overhaul is complete, it will then be time for Disneyland to get some TLC. And let’s not forget about that third theme park that the Imagineers eventually want to build on top of the the Fujishige family’s strawberry fields. Senior Disney Company officials certainly haven’t forgotten about Park No. 3. That’s why they’ve been so desperately trying to mend fences with the Anaheim City Council lately. So that — in the future — the path will then be clear for that particular Disneyland Resort expansion project.


But — of course — none of that can happen until Park No. 2 finally gets straightened out. Hopefully, that project will officially be able to get underway sometime after October.



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Anyway … Here’s hoping that today’s “Why For” column gives you a better understanding of why I wrote what I wrote last week.


Your thoughts?



Special thanks to Jeff Lange for provding the photos of Disney’s California Adventure that were used to illustrate today’s article. For further information on Mr. Lange’s popular series of Disney theme park DVDs, please follow this link.

Jim Hill is an entertainment writer who has specialized in covering The Walt Disney Company for nearly 40 years now. Over that time, he has interviewed hundreds of animators, actors, and Imagineers -- many of whom have shared behind-the-scenes stories with Mr. Hill about how the Mouse House really works. In addition to the 4000+ articles Jim has written for the Web, he also co-hosts a trio of popular podcasts: “Disney Dish with Len Testa,” “Fine Tooning with Drew Taylor” and “Marvel US Disney with Aaron Adams.” Mr. Hill makes his home in Southern New Hampshire with his lovely wife Nancy and two obnoxious cats, Ginger & Betty.

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Jens Dahlmann of LongHorn Steakhouse has lots of great tips when it comes to grilling

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Sure, for some folks, the Fourth of July is all about fireworks. But for the 75% of all Americans who own a grill or a smoker, the Fourth is our Nation’s No. 1 holiday when it comes to grilling. Which is why 3 out of 4 of those folks will spend some time outside today working over a fire.

But here’s the thing: Though 14 million Americans can cook a steak with confidence because they actually grill something every week, the rest of us – because we use our grill or smoker so infrequently … Well, let’s just say that we have no chops when it comes to dealing with chops (pork, veal or otherwise).

So what’s a backyard chef supposed to in a situation like this when there’s so much at steak … er … stake? Turn to someone who really knows their way around a grill for advice. People like Jens Dahlmann, the Vice President and Corporate Executive Chef for Darden Restaurant’s LongHorn Steakhouse brand.

Given that Jens’ father & grandfather were chefs, this is a guy who literally grew up in a kitchen. In his teens & twenties, Dahlmann worked in hotels & restaurants all over Switzerland & Germany. Once he was classically trained in the culinary arts, Jens then  jumped ship. Well, started working on cruise ships, I mean.

Anyway … While working on Cunard’s Sea Goddess, Dahlmann met Sirio Maccioni, the founder of Le Cirque 2000. Sirio was so impressed with Jens’ skills in the kitchen that he offered him the opportunity to become sous-chef at this New York landmark. After four years of working in Manhattan, Dahlmann then headed south to become executive chef at Palm Beach’s prestigious Café L’Europe.

Jens Dahlmann back during his Disney World days

And once Jens began wowing foodies in Florida, it wasn’t all that long ’til the Mouse came a-calling. Mickey wanted Dahlmann to shake things up in the kitchen over at WDW’s Flying Fish Café. And he did such a good job with that Disney’s Boardwalk eatery the next thing Jens knew, he was then being asked to work his magic with the menu at the Contemporary Resort’s California Grill.

From there, Dahlmann had a relatively meteoric rise at the Mouse House. Once he became Epcot’s Food & Beverage general manager, it was only a matter of time before he wound up as the executive chef in charge of this theme park’s annual International Food & Wine Festival. Which – under Jens’ guidance – experienced some truly explosive growth.

“When I took on Food & Wine, that festival was only 35 days long and had gross revenues of just $5.5 million. When I left Disney in 2016, Food & Wine was now over 50 days long and that festival had gross revenues of $22 million,” Dahlmann admitted during a recent sit-down. “I honestly loved those 13 years I spent at Disney. When I was working there, I learned so much because I was really cooking for America.”

And it was exactly that sort of experience & expertise that Darden wanted to tap into when they lured Jens away from Mickey last year to become LongHorn Steakhouse’s new Vice President and Corporate Executive Chef. But today … Well, Dahlmann is offering tips to those of us who are thinking about cooking steak tips for the Fourth.

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“When you’re planning on grilling this holiday, if you’re looking for a successful result, the obvious place to start is with the quality of the meat you plan on cooking for your friends & family. If you want the best results here, don’t be cheap when you go shopping. Spend the money necessary for a fresh filet or a New York strip. Better yet a Ribeye, a nice thick one with good marbling. Because when you look at the marbling on a steak, that’s where all the flavor happens,” Jens explained. “That said, you always have to remember that — the higher you go with the quality of your meat — the less time you’re going to want that piece of meat to spend on the grill.”

And speaking of cooking … Before you even get started here, Jens suggests that you first take the time to check over all of your grilling equipment. Making sure that the grill itself is first scraped clean & then properly oiled before you then turn up the heat.

“If you’re working with a dirty grill, when you go to turn your meat, it may wind up sticking to the grill. Or maybe those spices that you’ve just so carefully coated your steak with will wind up sticking to the grill, rather than your meat,” Dahlmann continued. “Which is why it’s always worth it to spend a few minutes prior to firing up your grill properly cleaning & oiling it.”

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And speaking of heat … Again, before you officially get started grilling here, Jens says that it’s crucial to check your temperature gauges. Make sure that your char grill is set at 550 (so that it can then properly handle the thicker cuts of meat) and your flattop is set at 425 (so it can properly sear thinner pieces of meat).

Okay. Once you’ve bought the right cuts of quality meat, properly cleaned & oiled your grill, and then made sure that everything’s set at the right temperature (“If you can only stand to hold your hand directly over the grill for two or three seconds, that’s the right amount of heat,” Dahlmann said), it’s now time to season your steaks.

“Don’t be afraid to be bold here. You can’t be shy when it comes to seasoning your meat. You want to give it a nice coating. Largely because — if you’re using a char grill — a lot of that seasoning is just going to fall off anyway,” Jens stated. “It’s up to you to decide what sort of seasoning you want to use here. Even just some salt & pepper will enhance a steak’s flavor.”

Then – according to Dahlmann – comes the really tough part. Which is placing your meat on the grill and then fighting the urge to flip it too early or too often.

“The biggest mistake that a lot of amateur cooks make is that they flip the steak too many times. The real key to a well-cooked piece of meat is just let it be, “Jens insisted. “Of course, if you’re serving different cuts of meat at your Fourth of July feast, you always want to put your biggest thickest steak on the grill first. If you’re also cooking a New York Strip, you want to put that one on a few minutes later. But after that, just let the grill do its job and flip your meat a total of three or four times, once every three minutes or so.”

Of course, the last thing you want to do is overcook a quality piece of meat. Which is why Dahlmann suggests that – when it comes to grilling steaks – if you’re going to err, err on the side of undercooking.

“You can always put a piece of meat back on the grill if it’s slightly undercooked. When you over-cook something, all you can do then is start over with a brand-new piece of meat,” Jens said. “Just be sure that you’re using the correct cut of meat for the cooking result you’re aiming for. If someone wants a rare or medium rare steak, you should go with a thicker cut of steak. If one of your guests wants their steak cooked medium or well, it’s best to start with a thinner cut of meat.”

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As you can see, the folks at Longhorn take grilling steaks seriously. How seriously? Just last week at Darden Corporate Headquarters in Orlando, seven of these brand’s top grill masters (who – after weeks of regional competitions – had been culled from the 491 restaurants that make up this chain) competed for a $10,000 prize in the Company’s second annual Steak Master Series. And Dahlmann was one of the people who stood in Darden’s test kitchens, watching like a hawk as each of the contestants struggled to prepare six different dishes in just 20 minutes according to Longhorn Steakhouse’s exacting standards.

“I love that Darden does this. Recognizing the best of the best who work this restaurant,” Jens concluded. “We have a lot of people here who are incredibly knowledgeable & passionate when it comes to grilling.”

Speaking of which … If today’s story doesn’t include the exact piece of info that you need to properly grill that T-bone, just whip out your iPhone & text GRILL to 55702. Or – better yet – visit  ExpertGriller.com prior to firing up your grill or smoker later today. 

This article was originally published by the Huffington Post on Tuesday, July 4, 2017

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Brattleboro’s Strolling of the Heifers is a sincere if somewhat surreal way to spend a summer’s day in Vermont

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Some people travel halfway ‘around the planet so that they can then experience the excitement of the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona. If you’re more of a Slow Living enthusiast (as I am), then perhaps you should amble to Brattleboro, VT. Where – over the first weekend in June – you can then join a herd of cow enthusiasts at the annual Strolling of the Heifers.

Now in its 16th year, this three-day long event typically gets underway on Friday night in June with a combination block party / gallery walk. But then – come Saturday morning – Main Street in Brattleboro is lined with thousands of bovine fans.

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They’ve staked out primo viewing spots and set up camp chairs hours ahead of time. Just so these folks can then have a front row seat as this year’s crop of calves (which all come from local farms & 4-H clubs) are paraded through the streets.

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Viewed from curbside, Strolling of the Heifers is kind of this weird melding of a sincere small town celebration and Pasadena’s Doo Dah Parade. Meaning that – for every entry that actually acknowledged this year’s theme (i.e. “Dance to the Moosic”) — …

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… there was something completely random, like this parade’s synchronized shopping cart unit.

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And for every piece of authentic Americana (EX: That collection of antique John Deere tractors that came chugging through the city) …

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… there was something silly. Like – say – a woman dressed as a Holstein pushing a baby stroller through the streets. And riding in that stroller was a pig dressed in a tutu.

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And given that this event was being staged in the Green Mountain State & all … Well, does it really surprise you to learn that — among the groups that marched in this year’s Strolling of the Heifers – was a group of eco-friendly folks who, with their  chants of “We’re Number One !,” tried to persuade people along the parade route not to flush the toilet after they pee. Because – as it turns out – urine can be turned into fertilizer.

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And speaking of fertilizer … At the tail end of the parade, there was a group of dedicated volunteers who were dealing with what came out of the tail end of all those cows.

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This year’s Strolling of the Heifers concluded at the Brattleboro town common. Where event attendees could then get a closer look at some of the featured units in this year’s parade…

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… or perhaps even pet a few of the participants.

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But as for the 90+ calves who took part in the 2017 edition of Strolling of the Heifers, once they reached the town common, it was now time for a nosh or a nap.

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Elsewhere on the common, keeping with this year’s “Dance to the Moosic” theme, various musical groups performed in & around the gazebo throughout the afternoon.

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While just across the way – keeping with Brattleboro’s tradition of showcasing the various artisans who live & work in the local community – some pretty funky pieces were on display at the Slow Living Exposition.

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All in all, attending Strolling of the Heifers is a somewhat surreal but still very pleasant way to spend a summer’s day in Vermont. And that’s no bull.

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Well, that could be a bull. To be honest, what with the wig & all, it’s kind of hard to tell. 

This article was originally published by the Huffington Post on Sunday, June 4, 2017

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Looking to make an authentic Irish meal for Saint Patrick’s Day? If so, then chef Kevin Dundon says not to cook corned beef & cabbage

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Let’s at least start on a positive note: Celebrated chef, author & TV personality Kevin Dundon – the man that Tourism Ireland has repeatedly chosen as the Face of Irish Food – loves a lot of what happens in the United States on March 17th.

“I mean, look at what they do in Chicago on Saint Patrick’s Day. They toss all of this vegetable-based dye into the Chicago River and then paint it green for a day. That’s terrific,” Kevin said.

But then when it comes to what many Americans eat & drink on St. Paddy’s Day (i.e., a big plate of corned beef and cabbage. Which is then washed down with a mug of green beer) … Well, that’s where Dundon has to draw the line.

Irish celebrity chef Kevin Dundon displays a traditional Irish loin of bacon with Colcannon potatoes and a Dunbrody Kiss chocolate dessert. Photo by Tom Burton. Copyright Disney Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved

“Green beer? No real Irishman would be caught dead drinking that stuff,” Kevin insists. “And as for eating corned beef & cabbage … That’s not actually authentic Irish fare either. Bacon and cabbage? Sure. But corned beef & cabbage was something that the Irish only began eating after they’d come to the States to escape the Famine. And even then these Irish-Americans only began serving corned beef & cabbage to their friends & family because they had to make do with the ingredients that were available to them at that time.”

And thus begins the strange tale of how corned beef & cabbage came to be associated with the North American celebration of Saint Patrick’s Day celebration. Because – according to Dundon – beef just wasn’t all that big a part of the Irish diet back in the 19th century.

To explain: Back in the Old Country, cattle – while they were obviously highly prized for the milk & cheese that they produced – were also beasts of burden. Meaning that they were often used for ploughing the fields or for hauling heavy loads. Which is why – back then — these animals were rarely slaughtered when they were still young & healthy. If anything, land owners liked to put a herd of cattle on display out in one of their pastures because that was then a sign to their neighbors that this farm was prosperous.

“Whereas pork … Well, everybody raised pigs back then. Which is why pork was a staple of the Irish diet rather than beef,” Dundon continued.

So if that’s what people actually ate back in the Old Country, how then did corned beef & cabbage come to be so strongly associated with Saint Patrick’s Day in the States.? That largely had to do with where the Irish wound up living after they arrived in the New World.

“When the Irish first arrived in America following the Great Famine, a lot of them wound up living in the inner city right alongside the Germans & the Jews, who were also recent immigrants to the States. And while that farm-fresh pork that the Irish loved wasn’t readily available, there was brisket. Which the Irish could then cure by first covering this piece of meat with corn kernel-sized pieces of rock salt – that’s how it came to be called corned beef. Because of the sizes of the pieces of rock salt that were used in the curing process – and then placing all that in a pot of water with other spices to soak for a few days.”

And as for the cabbage portion of corned beef & cabbage … Well, according to Kevin, in addition to buying their meat from the kosher delis in their neighborhood, the Irish would also frequent the stores that the German community shopped in. Where – thanks to their love of sauerkraut (i.e., pickled cabbage) – there was always a ready supply of cabbage to be had.

“So when you get right down to it, it was the American melting pot that led to corned beef & cabbage being found in the Irish-American cooking pot,” Dundon continued. “Since they couldn’t find or didn’t have easy access to the exact same ingredients that they had back in Ireland, Irish-Americans made do with what they could find in the immediate vicinity. And what they made was admittedly tasty. But it’s not actually authentic Irish fare.”

Mind you, what Kevin serves at Raglan Road Irish Pub and Restaurant at Disney Springs (which – FYI – Orlando Magazine voted as the area’s best restaurant back in 2014) is nothing if not authentic. Dundon and his team at this acclaimed gastropub pride themselves on making traditional Irish fare and then contemporized it.

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“Take – for example – what we serve here instead of corned beef & cabbage. Again, because it was pork – rather than beef – that was the true staple of the Irish diet back then, what we offer instead is a loin of bacon that has been glazed with Irish Mist. That then comes with colcannon potatoes. Which is this traditional Irish dish that’s made up of mashed potato that have had some cabbage & bacon mixed through it,” Kevin enthused. “This heavenly ham – that’s what we actually call this traditional Irish dish at Raglan Road, Kevin’s Heavenly Ham – also includes some savory cabbage with a parsley cream sauce as well as a raisin cider jus. It’s simple food. But because of the basic ingredients – and that’s the real secret of Irish cuisine. That our ingredients are so strong – the flavors just pop off the plate.”

Which brings us to the real challenge that Dundon and the Raglan Road team face every day. Making sure that they actually have all of the ingredients necessary to make this traditional-yet-contemporized Irish fare to those folks who frequent this Walt Disney World favorite.

“Take – for example – the fish we serve here. We only used cold water fish. Salmon, mussels and haddock that have been hauled out of the Atlantic, the ocean that America and Ireland share,” Kevin stated. “Not that there’s anything wrong with warm water fish. It’s just that … Well, it doesn’t have the same structure. It’s a softer fish, which doesn’t really fit the parameters of Irish cuisine. And if you’re going to serve authentic food, you have to be this dedicated when it comes to sourcing your ingredients.

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And if you’re thinking of perhaps trying to serve an authentic Irish meal this year, rather than once again serving corned beef & cabbage at your Saint Patrick’s Day Feast … Well, back in September of last year, Mitchell Beazley published “The Raglan Road Cookbook: Inside America’s Favorite Irish Pub.” This 296-page hardcover not only includes the recipe for Kevin’s Heavenly Ham but also it tells the tale of how this now-world-renown restaurant wound up being built in Orlando.

On the other hand, if you happen to have to the luck of the Irish and are actually down at The Walt Disney World Resort right now, it’s worth noting that Raglan Road is right in the middle of its Mighty St. Patrick’s Day Festival. This four day-long event – which includes Irish bands and professional dancers – stretches through Sunday night. And in addition to all that authentic Irish fare that Dundon and his team are cooking up, you also sample the fine selection of beers & cocktails that this establishment’s four distinct antique bars (each of which are more than 130 years old and were imported directly from Ireland) will be serving. Just – As ucht Dé (That’s “For God’s Sake” in Gaelic) – don’t make the mistake of asking the bartender there for a mug of green beer.

“Why would anyone willingly drink something like that?,” Dundon laughed. “I mean, just imagine what their washroom will look like the morning after.”

This article was originally published by the Huffington Post on Friday, March 17, 2017

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